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littlebigguy06
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any suggestions?
For my school, I am to figure out how to make "fireworks" for a theater production. What the director wants is a few large bright flashes,
and some loud booms. Obviously fire is to be used. My chemistry teacher is searching for possibilities but I was wondering if I could get any ideas
from here. If you have any ideas, please put the ingredients, procedure, and time. Thank you for you help!
Brent
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I'm sorry but we don't spoonfeed information here expecially about something that can easily be found through a few minutes of search
engines. In addition I am sorry to say that I do not believe your cover story and therefore am even less inclined to give you the information you
request.
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littlebigguy06
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Im sorry you dont believe me,
First, I have searched the internet, Second, it is for a play, its a shame you don't believe me. Its the King and I actually, I am a slave, all
we want it for is for the scene where the King dosen't order fireworks and he gets them anyway. Im not the lying type of person. Please help me.
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littlebigguy06
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Here is the web site if you don't belive me. It is labled "The King and I" the date might be wrong because it got moved back.
http://tri-valley.k12.il.us/distinfo/organizations/Finearts/...
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axehandle
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No
Chemistry doesn't have to be used. For the flashes you could use a camera flash, and for the booms you could use a computer with an amplifier.
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Honestly I think you may be best off using professional equipment, for a public performance. Such as stuff you get for your independence day and
such...
If something goes wrong by using homemade stuff, firstly you will be in deep shit, and your director just as well. No more plays for a long time to
come. Maybe in prison instead, who knows.
The reason why I say this is, being new to all this, you cant just mix up a few ingredients and have a jolly good time in front of hundreds of people
- it requires practise and experience handling the materials concerned, else you are likely to burn yourself, or blow something/someone up, or set
something on fire.
Regarding your chemistry teacher - either he's totally incompetent having to even think about mixtures that go flash or boom, or ... he's
not happy about you doing those things, and thus he's not helping you by claiming he has to 'think' about it.
If you still don't give up, I think better have a look in this forum, and others. There is plenty of information.
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Any chemistry teacher worth his salts should be able to whip up a simple redox reaction to create booms and
flashes.
Read other peoples posts and you may figure out what I am talking about littlebigguy06.
There are other ways to get the effects such as axehandle talked about. Chemistry of that sort is sometimes illegal and always dangerous. No one here
is just going to give you a step by step guide.
What if, what is isn\'t true?
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axehandle
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More info.
You could control a camera flash circuit from a computer, as well as the "boooms". Much easier to write a 4 hour program than trying to
control chemicals you're not familiar with.
Just my 1 Euro.
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littlebigguy06
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First of all, I would like to thank thoes that belived me. Second, I would like to say that I will be doing this w/ my chemistry teacher in the lab,
not on my front porch with chlorine and bleach.
Im not too sure of how to spell this but, we are going to see how Preoxyacetone will do. It is the stuff that you produce when you combine, Acetone,
30% Hydrogen Peroxide, and HCL. I have made this before and it ignites pretty easily and bursts at a low tempature.
Today, we made Guncotton. We will test this out tomorrow.
If you have any more opinions, please say them. But Im not some phyco High School student wanting to blow the place up.
Thank you for your time,
Brent Harper
Also my chem teacher has already agreed to help me. He would ither tell me yes or no.
[Edited on 18-3-2004 by littlebigguy06]
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Im not too sure of how to spell this but, we are going to see how Preoxyacetone will do. It is the stuff that you produce when you combine, Acetone,
30% Hydrogen Peroxide, and HCL. I have made this before and it ignites pretty easily and bursts at a low tempature.
Today, we made Guncotton. We will test this out tomorrow.
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Although I've never had a problem with the stuff just mentioning acetone peroxide usually makes it feel like something bad is going to
happen.
[Edited on 3/18/2004 by BromicAcid]
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littlebigguy06
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sorry, i didnt understand what you meant by "AP" could you explain?
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Use my method. It's much safer.
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I suspect that this is Acid Test in disguise.
Just my 2 Euro.
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littlebigguy06
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axehandle,
Im not sure how to do the whole camera thing, with the flash, and also, where would I get the fireworks sound?
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Damn! Jumping into the big guns so soon? AP dosn't just 'ignite and burst'; it explodes! I think a simple flash powder tube would work
fine. Your 'play' has fireworks in it right? Not High Explosives known as organic peroxides!
It sounds like you and your teacher may not know the dangers of explosives very well. I don't think any sane HS chemistry teacher would help a
student make AP or nitrocellulose.
Follow BromicAcid's warning; nothing good can come of using AP and nitrocellulose for a school play. Its way overkill.
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littlebigguy06
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We use this very often, Many times I have stayed after school and help him make it. We make it in only small quanities.
(does it sound like im dealing drugs or what!!)
And what is "AP"?????
[Edited on 18-3-2004 by littlebigguy06]
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littlebigguy....
Just use a sound sample of a "BOOM" coming from a computer. While doing that, use the parallel port output to drive a circuit that triggers
a camera flash circuit. It's really easy. Do you know any programming?
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littlebigguy06
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No idea, sorry.
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Blast. Well, it's harder to learn how to connect a trigger circuit to the computer than it is to make acetone peroxide. Your chem teacher much be
a lunatic, btw. I suggest you go the hard way (takes about 4 hours more work than the maiming route).
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littlebigguy06
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Sorry, and actually my teacher was the validvictorian of his school. He is a friggin genius.
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Wow, now I have seen it all.....
I'm sorry to say that it looks like no one here is willing to give you the information you desire. We understand that this is not what you want
to hear, but you must understand the reasons for it being so.
As much as you disagree, you must understand that we feel you are not ready to perform such chemistry, and we cannot provide you will information that
in our opinion has a high probability of getting someone hurt in your situation. It is a large liability for this community and it's hosts.
You have been provided with alternative methods, and also have been provided with information as to where you can find the knowledge you seek
elsewhere. I must regretfully inform you that your chances of finding the information you desire here are very low.
If you truly want the answers to your questions, it is advised that you look elsewhere, as continuing your query here will simply be a waste of your
time. Feel free to search and browse the discussions of the community.
Good luck on your play.
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I probably gonna get yelled at for this, littlebigguy it sounds like your are your chemistry teachers bitch.
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littlebigguy06
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You SOB, how dare you even begin to say that. First of all, we are friends, we get along, I enjoy chemistry, he enjoys it, holy crap you are an ass.
You have never met me, never heard of me, and you are saying im his bitch, I wanna know what led you to that conclusion. Holy shit you are a bastard.
Also, if you knew you were going to get yelled at, whyd you say it.
Honestly, what was the point of saying anything like that. Why dont you explain that one to me genius. wow. obviously you like chemistry too or else
you wouldnt be on this website.
And Turel, thanks for you concern, I found what I was looking for. Someone helped me out. Thank you turel. On the top of my computer screen, it says
somthing about The Art and Science of Amateur Experimentalism. The way I see it, theatre is a Fine Art and chemistry is a Science so
im just putting the two together.
Brent
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Flash Pot
Google it.
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littlebigguy06
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Already did, thanks a bunch BromicAcid
[Edited on 18-3-2004 by littlebigguy06]
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