prometheus1970
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nitration of hexamine with h2so4/kno3
I know you can nitrate hexamine with hcl/nh4no3, but will the process be successful using H2SO4/KNo3? Will the result be hexamine dinitrate? I've
read that hdn (hexamine dintrate is rather weak and needs a cap and booster to detonate) is it worth all the trouble? I'm particularly interested in
hexamine -based compounds because I bough a pound of it to make HMTD, but have since decided that organic peroxides, although easy to synth are less
than desirable for a multitude of other, well-known reasons(especially hmtd as metal hating as it is) I'm looking for something interesting, but not
too overly complicated to do with the hexamine. I thank you for your thoughts...
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(sigh)
Bachmann & Sheehan, JACS 71: 1842–1845
By temperature control, you can push the equilibrium more or less toward octogen or hexogen production.
So close to Hallo'ween, I think there's nothing quite like a bubbling vat of
ammonium acetate, acetic anhydride, HMTA, and conc. nitric acid.
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The nitration of Hexamine generally requires fuming HNO3 and acetic anhydride, mixed acids will not work as H2SO4 decomposes hexamine into
formaldehyde and some tar like substance. Mixing hexamine with HNO3 and H2SO4 is a great way to demonstrate a run away, all while spewing nitrogen
oxides and formaldehyde gas.
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prometheus1970
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Thanks abunch!! That clears that up! On to other more understood pursuits (etn, nitrocellulose)
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The direct nitrolysis of hexamine by >90% HNO3 gives RDX on drowning . . .
Expect somewhat lower yields than with processes using Ac2O!
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I''ve been trying to avoid the issue of acquiring ac2o, but I know how frustrating low yields can be, so I guess I'll just bit the bullet. Thanks!
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Back then Sobrero hadn't quite had his "eureka moment" . . .
You don't need Ac2O - just concentrate your HNO3!
And yields aren't frustratingly low by any means - direct nitrolysis was the only viable route to RDX until the mid-1940s.
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