entropy51
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Is it just me?
Or has the level of chemistry on the forum sunk to a new low?
Actually, it isn't just me.
Several other members have expressed the same thoughts to me.
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Sedit
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Its getting to be summer and high school kids are finishing up there beginner chem classes allowing them to understand parts of what they read on the
net. Expect to see a higher incendent of half baked bomb and drug discussion at that point but I wouldn't worry.
Personally I haven't seen much of a change but I have a habit of skipping right over threads whos topics don't peek my intrest.
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
"I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the
fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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The WiZard is In
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Quote: Originally posted by entropy51  | Or has the level of chemistry on the forum sunk to a new low?
Actually, it isn't just me.
Several other members have expressed the same thoughts to me. |
I don't know how you measure such things.
Looking at the last 5-days posts the 4 most popular viewed
subjects total 271 701 views. Without doing the numbers ...
me thinks equals a SL of all other posts totaled.
Picric acid 44 838
Shaped charges 57 293
Acetic anhydride 110 544 [wonder what its used for]
Hydrazine 59 026
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Magpie
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Except for the very early time of this forum (before my time) it seems there's always been a background level of newbie, kewlery, cookery, and
half-baked rambling. This usually could be ignored as there were 1 or 2 good relatively high-level discussions going on too. Also there were
presentations of experimental results that were somethiing other than "I mixed A with B and C, and now I have this really weird junk. What is it?"
It is the the high level discussions and experiments that have significantly fallen off, leaving just the relatively boring background noise.
We do need the newbies to ask the questions, but we also need some new expertise and experimentation to provide some more meaningful discussions.
There is nothing like 2 or 3 experts battling it out over some points of theory to really make for fun and valuable reading.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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Sedit
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I surely aint an expert by any means or a very good experimentor for that matter since I have a habit of cutting corners for the sake of saying "what
if" but im sure I could speak for many when I say.... Its nice outside... time to crawl out of out dungons and go to the beach.  . Nows the time I would like to see more plant extraction, analysis and microbial
experiments and other various forms of natural chemistry but it all boils down to the will of the experimentor.
It is after all close to mating season perhaps we just have other things on our minds
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
"I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the
fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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psychokinetic
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| Quote: Originally posted by The WiZard is In | | Quote: Originally posted by entropy51 | Or has the level of chemistry on the forum sunk to a new low?
Actually, it isn't just me.
Several other members have expressed the same thoughts to me. |
I don't know how you measure such things.
Looking at the last 5-days posts the 4 most popular viewed
subjects total 271 701 views. Without doing the numbers ...
me thinks equals a SL of all other posts totaled.
Picric acid 44 838
Shaped charges 57 293
Acetic anhydride 110 544 [wonder what its used for]
Hydrazine 59 026 |
I noticed that. That's the sort of thing that was up when I joined.... in the last Northern Winter.
I'm too busy studying for my chemistry exam to be blowing anything up.
“If Edison had a needle to find in a haystack, he would proceed at once with the diligence of the bee to examine straw after straw until he found
the object of his search.
I was a sorry witness of such doings, knowing that a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety per cent of his labor.”
-Tesla
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UnintentionalChaos
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I too have noticed the influx of "threads too stupid to respond to" and an increase in the number of such threads where they are a year-'round
phenomenon on other forums.
Department of Redundancy Department - Now with paperwork!
'In organic synthesis, we call decomposition products "crap", however this is not a IUPAC approved nomenclature.' -Nicodem
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Organikum
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This question is asked about every three month. As a long time member of this board and after a prolonged absence I can assure you that the quality of
SCM gets better and has reached levels undreamed of in the beginning.
Of course on boards like this there is always an certain noise to information ratio, but this ratio is very well tolerable on SCM, minding freedom of
speech and educational intent. Yes, many stupid questions are asked (and I asked some of them) but dont forget that the most stupid is the one who
doesnt ask at all.
So remember your own beginnings and dont forget:
Die größten Kritiker der Elche, waren früher selber welche....
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azo
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I think there is proberly a lot of rubbish being posted less related to chemistry and i think the moderators should clean it up a bit . like me some
people don't like to post a lot because when you do and your wrong which happens to everyone you get the boot put into you instead of providing
information to help you understand. Not everyone has the the same amount of knowledge.! there is a lot of i no more than you out there ,it doesn't
matter how much you know there will be someone that knows more than you.
I also think that the ones with far more experties should do more posting so people like me can learn more from them.
regards azo
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hissingnoise
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Yeah, entropy51, I too, think the normal waxing and waning of the rate of improvement of a good thing has to be taken in one's stride . . .
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12AX7
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If you don't like it, get out into the lab and do something interesting. Then post about it.
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Sedit
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Org???
I almost wanna pokem with a stick to see if hes real.....
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
"I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the
fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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azo
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I REST MY CASE
AZO
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Sedit
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What case might that be?
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
"I see a lot of patterns in our behavior as a nation that parallel a lot of other historical processes. The fall of Rome, the fall of Germany — the
fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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Vogelzang
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http://www.google.com/patents?id=dxQdAAAAEBAJ&printsec=a...
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Organikum
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A psychodelic state from cannabis? Oh my....
[Edited on 2-6-2010 by Organikum]
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hissingnoise
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None of that couch-lock shit!
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Vogelzang
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Jean Paul Sartre said the first question of existentialism is "why do things exist?". He then said there was no answer so concluded that life was
absurd. If you've ever watched the Dali Lama speak or seen anything on TV about Buddism, you may be familiar with their recommendation of not
worrying too much about the suppression of your instincts, but learning to deal with them. They recommend everything in moderation (middle way).
[Edited on 2-6-2010 by Vogelzang]
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Vogelzang
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One way to have a message board that only has posts that you agree with is to have all computer generated members that are programmed to post only
what you agree with.
What evidence can you show from science that shows that we are really concious beings posting and not just the illusory manifestation of that flesh
computer between your ears?
[Edited on 2-6-2010 by Vogelzang]
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Ephoton
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of course the wizard is in acetic anhydride is used for anhydrous pickels
e3500 console login: root
bash-2.05#
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12AX7
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| Quote: Originally posted by Vogelzang | One way to have a message board that only has posts that you agree with is to have all computer generated members that are programmed to post only
what you agree with.
What evidence can you show from science that shows that we are really concious beings posting and not just the illusory manifestation of that flesh
computer between your ears?
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Well, we pass the Turing test, for one.
Unless they've finally figured out how to make computers do that. In which case, if the computer is indistinguishable from a human, what does it
really matter? I don't know and I don't care.
Tim
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Rosco Bodine
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| Quote: Originally posted by entropy51 | Or has the level of chemistry on the forum sunk to a new low?
Actually, it isn't just me.
Several other members have expressed the same thoughts to me. |
Definitely the Energetic Materials section has become a magnet for relatively ignorant posts. It is aggravating when
there is so much "traffic" in posting of low quality topics, questions, and inaccurate information, involving discussions of subject matter that is
nothing new or obscure or interesting, but are only a rehashing of mundane topics that are already well covered and tiresomely discussed at other
forums past and present. Sometimes it is like an encounter group or chat room for kiddies and/or clueless posters.
IMO those sorts of kiddie threads should just be moved to detritus or locked with regularity to keep down the interest and posting traffic regarding
unworthy topics. And "safety" should not be a pretext indulged for topic postings in Energetic Materials which more rightly belong in "Beginnings" or
perhaps a "catch all" sticky "Safety" category residing in 'Beginnings" where such "pretext topics" can be redirected.
Okay, that's my two cents.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Organikum | This question is asked about every three month. As a long time member of this board and after a prolonged absence I can assure you that the quality of
SCM gets better and has reached levels undreamed of in the beginning.
Of course on boards like this there is always an certain noise to information ratio, but this ratio is very well tolerable on SCM, minding freedom of
speech and educational intent. Yes, many stupid questions are asked (and I asked some of them) but dont forget that the most stupid is the one who
doesnt ask at all.
So remember your own beginnings and dont forget:
Die größten Kritiker der Elche, waren früher selber welche.... |
I feel the same.
I weep at the sight of flaming acetic anhydride.
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Vogelzang
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| Quote: Originally posted by madscientist | | Quote: Originally posted by Organikum | This question is asked about every three month. As a long time member of this board and after a prolonged absence I can assure you that the quality of
SCM gets better and has reached levels undreamed of in the beginning.
Of course on boards like this there is always an certain noise to information ratio, but this ratio is very well tolerable on SCM, minding freedom of
speech and educational intent. Yes, many stupid questions are asked (and I asked some of them) but dont forget that the most stupid is the one who
doesnt ask at all.
So remember your own beginnings and dont forget:
Die größten Kritiker der Elche, waren früher selber welche.... |
I feel the same. |
Less psychosis on this board might have to do with less drugs and/or the higher unemployment which would tend to cause some people to lose internet
service and/or worry more about keeping their jobs, thus causing them to resort to a more conservative frame of mind for their own survival.
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Rosco Bodine
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I only have 3,643 posts .....so anyone can see I can hardly get a word in edgewise due to all the "traffic"  
Pardon me for being cranky sometimes ....
I have good days and I have bad days
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