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[*] posted on 5-1-2019 at 07:16
Few questions on dual carbon batteries


Dual carbon batteries use graphite formed by pyrolysis of cotton as both cathode and anode. The alkali salt, in the original battery LiPF6 undergoes following reactions:

Positive electrode:

PF−6 + n C ⇄ Cn(PF6) + e−
Negative electrode:

Li+ + n C + e− ⇄ LiCn

this is interesting to me because Im into low tech chemistry and this seems like the simplest in terms of obtaining chemical components battery out there. If we can replace LiPF6 with a potassium compound that is.

Therefore: Could a potassium salt by used since it also forms an intercalation compound with graphite (KC8)? Or does KC8 have properties that would preclude it's use, such that it would for example destroy the fine structure of the electrode?

Why is PF6 used as the anion? It forms an intercalation compound as well which makes the battery rechargeable, but if we're fine with it being a disposable battery, could we use a carbonate anion that would form co2 at the electrode,or would it potentially oxidize the electrode forming carbon monoxide?


[Edited on 5-1-2019 by John paul III]
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[*] posted on 6-1-2019 at 16:14


The large size of potassium would make the graphite cathode tend to crumble and disintegrate even faster than lithium does.




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