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[*] posted on 27-11-2003 at 14:53
Azides of Amines and other Organic Bases


Just had this thought, has anyone heard about azides of amides, such as NH3, N2H4, CH3NH2 etc before, or even better, of nitro amides such as [O2N-CH2-NH3] [N3] etc etc? Also, is anyone aware of the existence of azide anhydrides? I imagine the latter are rather hard to prepare, and probably so unstable you couldn't even produce them...

Obviously there is a vast number of variations, so I wondered whether there are any interesting ones????
I am not speaking of azides linked to N or C directly, but rather of salts of organic bases, to be clear on that.

PS sorry if there is a partial overlap with other threads :)

Edit: I realise HN3 is a weak acid, so they might be difficult to prepare as amino salts...


[Edited on 27-11-2003 by chemoleo]

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smile.gif posted on 30-11-2003 at 20:51
hydroxylammonium azide gotta be intriguing


NH<sub>3</sub>OHN<sub>3</sub> <s>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;></s> 2N<sub>2</sub> + H<sub>2</sub>O + H<sub>2</sub>



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[*] posted on 1-12-2003 at 16:00


Hydroxylamine is a poor base an hydrazoic acid is a lousy acid so the salt can't be formed.
Hydroxylammonium nirate might be interesting (I have a feeling the nitrite is too unstable to prepare.)
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[*] posted on 5-12-2003 at 15:08


sure, but many amines have a fairly strong basicity. There is potential on this!
By the way, although they are not organic, how about NH2NH3N3? hydrazine is a strong base. or even ammonium azide, does that exist ?




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[*] posted on 3-3-2010 at 14:13
Hexamine Azide


Hi, sorry to bring up an old post, but the subject reminded me of a reference to Hexamine Azide. Does this sound familiar to anyone? A search here yeilded nothing, and PATR 2700 in the "H" section doesn't list it, only hexamine styphnate. I will continue to look for information on it.
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[*] posted on 5-3-2010 at 16:45


Hydrazine Azide, N2H4*HN3 can be prepared by refluxing Hydeazine Sulphate and Sodium Azide in n-Butanol...

Its damn hydroscopic though.




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