jim30082
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artchemicals.com
Anyone ever done any business with them?
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kilowatt
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Looks like they've got some pretty outrageous prices.
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pantone159
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I noticed them some time ago, but I have never ordered anything from them. For the most part, their prices do seem high, I think that is why I never
placed any orders.
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I looked at some of their chemical prices,
Some were ok, others where 2-3x higher then other suppliers...
The prices for HCL where overkill.
Also same goes for some of the glassware..
Also noticed that they are selling products from Spectrum Chemicals too,
[Edited on 19-7-2008 by undead_alchemist]
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I ordered palladium on carbon from them. no problem.
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1g of ergotamine tartrate just like that? seems fishy.
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woelen
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I ordered several chemical from them and had them shipped from the USA to Europe. No problems at all.
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Quote: | Originally posted by woelen
I ordered several chemical from them and had them shipped from the USA to Europe. No problems at all. |
Woelen, I'm pretty sure you ordered from http://artcraftchemicals.com/ right?
I think he means that. Artchemicals.com is something else.
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Come on. If they are in USA and selling ergotamine tartrate OTC they are a sting plain and simple.
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woelen
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Jor, you are right. I never ordered from artchemicals.com, but I did several times from http://www.artcraftchemicals.com . The latter is a very good seller, with decent prices and hassle-free ordering. Their chemicals, however, are
limited to photography and other related processes. Nice for metal salts though.
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ArtChemicals.com seems to be a reseller of Spectrum to some extent. Their main inventory listing is a very small subset of Spectrum's inventory,
things useful for art projects. But they do have links to everything in Spectrum, which includes ergotamine tartrate. If you look at the Spectrum page
https://webstore.spectrumchemical.com/OA_HTML/ibeCSrdSrchRes...
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Item Additional Information
DEA list 1 chemical. California precursor chemical. Shipping from CA requires 21 day hold. Written order required.
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so I am sure an order from an individual would be rejected. Expensive too! I don't think it is a sting, but I sure wouldn't try to order that!
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Sedit
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Iv been in the scean of art'sy type shit for a while. Why would any art store need to seel ergotamine? It really seems useless at first glance.
[Edited on 8-3-2009 by Sedit]
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It does beg the question, if you were a DEA registered buyer of List One precursors, why would you deal with a dodgy overpriced repack operation like
these? You could buy it straight up from a real supplier.
Anyway I thought ergotamine is on Schedule One not merely List One. I was given to understand that most of the LA-related alkaloids from which LA can
be prepared are in the same boat.
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God i hate to say it, but for once I agree with Sauron, there is no need for ergotamine from this source. Be wary of anything they sell because that
alone is enough to raise some eyebrows. It just makes no sence unless Im missing something here.
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
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fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
before."~Maynard James Keenan
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Why would anyone dare by ergotamine anyways? Most places selling it like that would almost have to be a sting operation wouldn't they?
Considering the risks, seems like you would want to try to culture the fungus and extract.
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Sauron
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A DEA licensed lab would not have to fear a sting, but they also wouldn't have to deal with such absurd sellers.
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artchemicals is where I got a liter of tech grade nitric, shipped to TX (DHL, black hazmat bucket).
no problem
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I don't think this place is a sting, they seem legit to me.
They list some variety of chems that are useful for art projects. (They seem to ask for a lot of use descriptions too.) These chems are, apparently,
sourced from Spectrum.
Along with their main inventory, there is also a section that reproduces all of Spectrum's catalog. This includes ergotamine tartrate. No human put
that info specifically on artchemicals webpage, that was done by a computer program. You really have to search for it too, I had to explicitly search
for ergotamine to find it, it's not like it is dangled out as a tempting thing to buy.
If you DID try and buy the ergotamine online, it would surely be checked by Spectrum, and you wouldn't get it although you would get a lot of
unfriendly questions.
Point is, I don't think that link is intentionally on the artchemical webpage, they aren't trying to sting anybody, but of course don't try to buy
any!
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Sedit
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Sounds to me more like a front then a sting then.
Order mess loads of chems and try to hide there ergotamine purchases in the mass of paperwork. Just a thought but reasonable enough if you ask me.
Knowledge is useless to useless people...
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fall of the ruling country, the people who think they can do whatever they want without anybody else's consent. I've seen this story
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Quote: | Originally posted by Sedit
Order mess loads of chems and try to hide there ergotamine purchases in the mass of paperwork. Just a thought but reasonable enough if you ask me.
| Please learn the basics about database queries lest you make a fool of yourself.
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