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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 08:38


Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  
I believe that one was a re-make of the French classic; "The Wages of Fear" in which nitro was transported in tankers over rough terrain to deal with a misbehaving oil-well.
It really was a cracker - the remake, I'm told, a damp squib . . .
In the one I'm looking for I seem to remember Scheider striding across desert to a large flat-bed arrangement which was loaded with powder on a tray, roughly smoothed over.
The FX, IIRC were nothing 'special' to put it mildly!
Oh, well . . .

Filmography Roy Scheider
http://www.ranker.com/list/roy-scheider-movies-and-films-and...

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Someone else (thinks they) remember it...

Remember the scene in the desert, when his company blows up
that enormous mess of stuff? That's exactly how they make metals
that can't weld to each other bond, like aluminum and steel. We
use bi-metal every days here. Basically, they take a mess of plastic
explosive in pellets and lay a smooth layer under the two plates
(which are clamped together). Then another mess of plastic, a
boatload of sandbacks for tamping, then simply stand back, and
twist the plunger. I heard we're talking a million pounds per square
inch to do this little trick.

http://community.combatsim.com/topic/16016-roy-scheider-pass...




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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 09:37


There was a TV show about 'how they make it' or something (?), and they were explosive welding metals. This case was welding stainless cladding on a structural stronger steel for corrosion resistant purposes. They did position the plates one above the other, but used metal spacers to hold the sheets apart prior to the blast. The sheets were buffed and cleaned, positioned with supporting spacers, which allowed the gas trapped between the plates to exit ahead of the compressing plates. The explosive was loose granules or powder raked with hand tools over the top plate. The explosion was initiated in one corner, as to allow the shock wave to 'sweep' across the plates. I imagine the effect was like a squeegee or roller pushing the plates together.

They then checked the plate for integrity and problems, before straightening it, trimming, and cleaning it up. It looked like a very artful process. They mentioned the idea came from WW1 when people noticed explosives had welded metal from artillery shells to armor.
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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 10:44


Thanks for that guys - after some looking, I'm now fairly sure it was 52Pick-up, in which case Gary Zink gets the raspberries for the abysmal FX!
Detasheet is being used successfully these days but VoD still needs fairly careful control.
The sculptress, Evelyn Rosenberg down in NM gets through reams of the stuff, I hear!

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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 11:34


Quote: Originally posted by Mr. Wizard  
There was a TV show about 'how they make it' or something (?), and they were explosive welding metals.

I suffer from the belief this was done on The Myth Buster's also-
on not by.

The Analogue guy returns from his files. Found this which
is not what I was looking (I am still looking) for.



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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 12:31


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Remember the scene in the desert, when his company blows up
that enormous mess of stuff?

But such a very tame deflagration WiZ?
One supposes, though, that improvements in that area, at that time, might have resulted in more Academy Awards being received posthumously :D!
On the plus side, CGI is now making long, visual strides . . .

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I will grudgingly admit that such pretty fireballs were spectacular in their day!



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[*] posted on 23-5-2011 at 15:37


Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  

The sculptress, Evelyn Rosenberg down in NM gets through reams of the stuff, I hear!


Somewhere in my files is a copy of this :—

Evelyn Rosenberg
She's an artist whose explosives make a lasting impression.
Smithsonian December 01, 1987

If I ever find it I may post it.

Her web site.
http://evelynrosenberg.com/artist.php?p=46

Byda - DuPont stopped producing Detasheet years ago.
There are substitutes.
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[*] posted on 6-8-2011 at 08:57
Sodium!?


Buffalo, NY
Man seriously burned in workplace accident
Published:August 5, 2011, 12:00 AM
Updated: August 5, 2011, 6:49 AM

NIAGARA FALLS—An unidentified man was seriously burned following a
workplace accident at Tier Vessel on South Hyde Park Boulevard on
Thursday morning. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration is
investigating.

The man was burned just after 11 a. m. as he cleaned out railroad
tanker cars at the site, receiving sodium burns to his hands, knees,
back and arms, according to Niagara Falls Fire Department officials.

He was taken to Erie County Medical Center, Buffalo, to be treated.
His condition is unknown.

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Not beyond the realm of possibility. Ullmann's sez —
Sodium is shipped in —

Rail tank cars with a capacity of 45 t sodium.
Road tank cars with a capacity of up to 20 t of sodium.

However, I suffer from a refusal to believe anyone would be sent into
one to clean it out!


An updated news story.

Worker burned at tank-cleaning facility in fair condition
Published:August 5, 2011, 9:38 AM
Updated: August 5, 2011, 1:29 PM

NIAGARA FALLS -- A worker who was burned Thursday at a
tank-cleaning facility on South Hyde Park Boulevard was in fair
condition today at Erie County Medical Center, company
officials said.

Fire officials said the employee at Tier New York LLC, whose
name was not released, was getting into a tank when a burst of
fire flashed over him. Co-workers pulled him out of the tank.

The man suffered second- and third-degree burns. The burns
were not chemical burns.

Tier New York spokeswoman Rhonda Prutzman said the tank
was the type that a tractor-trailer would haul and not a railroad
tanker as had been previously reported by fire officials. She
also said the tank was not carrying any hazardous materials.

"It was an empty tanker ready to be washed," Prutzman said.

The company is working with officials from the Occupational
Safety and Health Administration to determine what happened.


djh
"It was an empty tanker ready to be washed."
AKA - I didn't know the gun was loaded.




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