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Marvin
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The structural formula on the page Rosco posted is wrong. If I had to place bets, I would bet the incorrect maltitol would nitrate well, spot the
mistake to see why.
Antifreeze, sorbitol, PE etc, these are not sugars and the difference is important.
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PainKilla
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I am well aware of what a sugar is, and the procedure I used was my own, in fact I did it long before Rosco posted his procedure. I will retry the
synthesis once I get some more acids, but that is off topic. Maltitol is a very large molecule...perhaps it is in someway it is impeding nitration? I
believe it forms a hexanitrate or octanitrate, but I am in school and don't want to look around since I'm doing other work :p.
[Edited on 30-11-2004 by PainKilla]
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Marvin
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I'm not saying you dont know the difference but mistakes have been made in the thread that collectivly lead in the wrong direction.
I look at maltitol and it amazes me anyone would think its a good candidate for a nitrated explosive.
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Rosco Bodine
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Marvin
The structural formula on the page Rosco posted is wrong. If I had to place bets, I would bet the incorrect maltitol would nitrate well, spot the
mistake to see why |
Hmmmm . Please explain .
Also with regard to why maltitol might form a useful nitration product , well that possibility is likely because the parent sugar forms a useful
nitration product which was patented . The polyols are generally more stable and powerful following nitration , than the nitration products of sugars
from which they derive . So why would this general rule not apply to maltitol ? Ditto for lactitol and other polyols .
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PainKilla
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Also, relating to Rosco's post, I have found patents (now forgotten) regarding Maltitol's nitrate for a slurry explosive, so it is defiently
explosive then, at least to some extent.
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Marvin
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At first glance it looks like an ether of 2 polyols and nitration looks fairly standard. Count the carbons though and get 13, not 12. Fairly easy to
spot where the problem is, a bent line should be straight and if the molecule splits (which is now much easier and plausable to my mind in mixed acid)
its now a polyol and a reducing sugar.
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Rosco Bodine
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I think they mean to show an Oxygen substituted for one Carbon in what would otherwise be a standard benzene ring structure . See the "O" at
the vertex and the broken line . They represent the same structure the same way for lactitol .
http://www.grokfood.com/jecfa/additive_0241.htm
So they either got 'em both right , or we need to teach them how to draw 
[Edited on 3-12-2004 by Rosco Bodine]
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Seems like you're about 100 years late if you wanted to be first, T.L Davis quotes "Pictet and Reilly, Helv. Chim. Acta, 4, 613 (1921)".
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Seems like you are about 10 years late with this post Fulmen.
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Fulmen
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Yeah, talk about making an ass of myself 
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