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Sauron
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Aw, c'mon. You know perfectly well that these are not cops, not police, they are the crypto and elint shop corresponding to NSA and GCHQ. As such,
they have nothing to do with criminal matters, but only national security matters, such as foreign espionage againsy NZ, international terrorism, etc.
This entire thread is a perfect example of what they do NOT do. They did NOT block this forum, you just have a crappy ISP. You pulled a chicken little
the-sky-is-falling alarm prematurely, and now you want to get on your worn out hobbyhorse and rail against the intel pukes. Well, I doubt they will
notice, John, because they do not give a damn about you one way or the other. Cut the paranoid crap. It is tiresome.
Your ISP goes on the fritz so you spam the forum in 3-4 different places about how the "electronic secret police" must be blocking the forum. Well,
turns out they were not doing anything of the sort. Twospoons shot your selfaggrandizing delusions of grandeur theory full of holes. Get off of it!
[Edited on 9-9-2007 by Sauron]
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tito-o-mac
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Sciencemadness is for hobbyists, amateurists, why should it be blocked?
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Sauron
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By and large it isn't blocked and isn't likely to be IMO.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JohnWW
To get back to the subject of this thread: here in New Zealand, we have a highly secretive Electronic Secret Police, employing thousands of "secret"
cops, which monitors all international and domestic telephone calls, emails, radio conversations, and internet traffic. It is called the GCSB -
Government Communications Security Bureau, and has as its biggest asset large satellite interceptor dishes at Waihopi, near Blenheim. It operates as
part of the ECHELON international electronic snooping and surveillance program, along with the U.$.A., U.K, Australia, and Canada, thanks to a treaty
signed by a previous right-wing government with the Nixon régime in the U.S.A. in the early 1970s, and which I think cannot be revoked for 50 years.
It also helps the ordinary Cops, and the ordinary Secret Police ("Big SIS" - Security Intelligence Service), bug the phones of political opponents of
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Wow... You need to pursue another hobby. This one apparently has you a little freaked out.
Joe
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It has NOTHING to do with what one's hobbies are. Every time that governments give themselves increased powers of surveillance, electronic or other,
including in my country, allegedly to combat crime, terrorism, or foreign military or industrial espionage - usually under right-wing governments - it
has ALWAYS been abused, for the purposes of surveillance and harassment of lawful political dissenters and opponents. If you do not know this, Sauron,
just what have you been doing for the last 30+ years?
And, BTW, www.roguesci.org has gone "down" again, possibly thanks to the NSA, or their arch-foe, an outfit called "iDefense".
[Edited on 10-9-07 by JohnWW]
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Sauron
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Or maybe they just have a messed up host server.
Surely John you can't be clinging to tired old left wing ideological claptrap in the 21st century? Moscow Centre is gone. The Bolshies are history.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Besides, the Reds were MUCH more into crushing political dissent and engaging in smothering surveillance than anyone else. Ask Trotsky. Ask the Poles,
the Hungarians, the Cxechs. The KGB made the Gestapo look like boy scouts.
And who rid the world of these scum? Why, those nasty right wingers you don't like and those three-letter agencies you are so afraid of.
So go peddle your tired old propaganda somewhere else. This is a CHEMISTRY forum, not the website of the Socialist Workers Party.
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