Okay, my mistake. It is schedule 1 in several states and not federally.
Quote: | As far as the side discussion on diazepams: They are really quite different. Clonazepam will wipe your memory completely out for a good 15+hr plane
ride, where di, tem, and a few of the others just make you relaxed. Not sure about flun- but I imagine it is similar to clon, or at least I don't
doubt it's amnesic effects. Ever have someone come up to you in the terminal and ask if you got to call your buddy or not? And you didn't remember you
had a 3-hr conversation with them on the plane about whether you'd need to buy a new SIM card to just make a quick call as you waited for a transfer?
Creepy. Now I stay away from that crap. |
I disagree. I have been through the four most common benzodiazepines (alprazolam, clonazepam, diazepam and lorazepam) and the only difference I have
noticed is how much drowsiness is induced. The memory impairment is virtually the same (for me) and is only present when an above average dose is
taken.
Quote: | Women who claim to be victims of 'date-rape' drugs such as Rohypnol have in fact been rendered helpless by binge-drinking, says a study by doctors.
They found no evidence that any woman seeking help from emergency doctors because their drinks were allegedly spiked had actually been given these
drugs.
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The 12-month study was based on 75 patients - mostly women - treated in casualty who told doctors their drinks had been tampered with in pubs or
clubs.
But tests for drugs such as Rohypnol, GHB and ketamine found nothing, says the study published in the Emergency Medicine Journal.
It showed 65 per cent of women had 160mg of alcohol in their blood - twice the 80mg drink/drive limit - and a quarter were three times over the limit.
Although all the patients denied taking drugs such as cocaine and amphetamine, one fifth tested positive. |
I've been thinking the same thing for years. I had a feeling this is how it played out just from intuition based on years of being around people who
like to "go out" and have a so called "good time". I know it sounds bad (and I am not biased because a good friend of mine was a victim of rape) but,
IMO, a lot of the time when a woman gets drunk, has sex and regrets it (or gets pissed at the guy later on) they have a tendency to try and prove that
it wasn't their fault or get revenge. IMO, if you don't wish to have lowered inhibitions then DON'T DRINK. I really don't have A LOT of simpathy for
women who have sex with someone they don't like because of excessive drinking. Many times, the guy is just as drunk and surely means no harm.
My point is that sometimes it seems that this follows the rest of the country in trying to blame someone else for your own actions. Is it really rape
most of the time? Probably. Are there many cases where a woman is just trying to place blame or be vengeful? I think so.
Another reason: I'm sure there have been men that went to jail because they had sex with a married woman (in a relationship) and the woman's
significant other found out and she then claimed to have been raped. Yes, infedelity is wrong but it certainly should not be punished by law.
And before you guys start saying I'm sexist and I like to womanize, beat and rape women. Just know that I do think that the majority of these cases
are legit. However, I also think that a large number are not.
Anyway, what was this thread about? Ha! Sorry for the OTness.
"There must be no barriers to freedom of inquiry ... There is no place for dogma in science. The scientist is free, and must be free to ask any
question, to doubt any assertion, to seek for any evidence, to correct any errors. ... We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it and
that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. And we know that as long as men are free to ask what they must, free to say what they think,
free to think what they will, freedom can never be lost, and science can never regress." -J. Robert Oppenheimer
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