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SWIM
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They didn't balk at the order, but there is no projected shipping time or expected arrival date.
Will post when I find out if this worked.
I've actually still got most of the Polish stuff, but you folks get me paranoid about my supply chain sometimes.
BTW: Not being used for what you think it's for.
I'm fairly legit for an underground chemist.
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Chemcraft
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We sell red phosphorus with worldwide delivery.
https://chemcraft.su/product/23894
[Edited on 23-12-2019 by Chemcraft]
[Edited on 23-12-2019 by Chemcraft]
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woelen
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Be careful with selling red P to the USA. A UK-based seller of red P (and other, mostly pyrotechnics-related chemicals like Al, Mg, KNO3, KClO4 and a
few other oxidizers and flame colorants) sold quite a lot of red P to USA-based customers (and sold practically none of the other chemicals to the
USA). This seller was imprisoned on request of the USA. IIRC they even were delivered to the USA to be taken in custody over there. The seller was www.kno3.com and was of course shut down after this event.
The reason the USA wanted them punished was that a lot of the red P was used for making illicit drugs (mostly crystal meth). This was in 2007 or so,
quite some years ago. But I still remember quite well, I found it quite scary at the time.
[Edited on 23-12-19 by woelen]
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lordcookies24
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There is a lot of red P threads on this board. Is phosphorus all that useful? Or is it just for element collections?
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Crucial in regiospecific halogenation of alcohols.
Phlogiston manufacturer/supplier.
For all your phlogiston needs.
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G-Coupled
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That's certainly one way of putting it.
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When alcohol halogenation is tried with hydrohalic acids as the reagent, rearrangement can occur. Use of phosphorus halides retains regiospecificity.
Phlogiston manufacturer/supplier.
For all your phlogiston needs.
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G-Coupled
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Quote: Originally posted by PirateDocBrown  |
When alcohol halogenation is tried with hydrohalic acids as the reagent, rearrangement can occur. Use of phosphorus halides retains regiospecificity.
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SWIM
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My 100 gram order has been shipped.
No estimated arrival date.
https://cdn.dmnews.com/files/base/acbm/dmn/image/2014/01/960...
Woelen's post about the dangers of selling it in the US is interesting as I was considering putting this stuff in ampoules and selling it on Ebay to
element collectors.
I doubt I'd have trouble with the purchased for drug manufacturing thing.
I mean, who would buy 1 gram of red P to make amphetamines, a Smurf?
But If this would require DEA paperwork I'll certainly pass.
Just not worth the trouble.
The markup is pretty good, but its not like there'd be much volume.
If you tried to grab a large share of the Ebay market you'd just depress the prices. And for what, a couple of sales a week?
If you lived in a large city you could probably do better playing a violin on a busy street-corner.
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S.C. Wack
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Well there are laws about licenses for importing or selling list 1 chemicals (like ephedrine). And possessing them in certain states. I'm sure there
would be sales but who would be buying and how much are the police willing to pay.
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SWIM
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Just got 100 grams of red P in the mail from Russia.
It is vacuum packed in a plastic bag, and it says 99.4%.
Haven't tested it.
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woelen
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If it is from chemcraft.su, then you can trust it. That company delivers good quality materials and definitely is trustworthy.
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| Quote: Originally posted by woelen | Be careful with selling red P to the USA. A UK-based seller of red P (and other, mostly pyrotechnics-related chemicals like Al, Mg, KNO3, KClO4 and a
few other oxidizers and flame colorants) sold quite a lot of red P to USA-based customers (and sold practically none of the other chemicals to the
USA). This seller was imprisoned on request of the USA. IIRC they even were delivered to the USA to be taken in custody over there. The seller was www.kno3.com and was of course shut down after this event.
The reason the USA wanted them punished was that a lot of the red P was used for making illicit drugs (mostly crystal meth). This was in 2007 or so,
quite some years ago. But I still remember quite well, I found it quite scary at the time.
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Do you have any links to any articles about this? I can see on archive.org that the last version of their website (Sep 04, 2006) was titled Raw Chemicals International Ltd, you would think that one would easily be able to find some details about the
company and the legal troubles that brought it down with the name and URL, but I guess not... Or maybe my Google-fu just isn't what it use to be...
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Yeah, the world police nation will put you in jail, they just put pressure on the respective gubbermints.
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woelen
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See here: https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/10290375.man-finally-...
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karlos³
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Whoa, his "wife" looks like it was born a man 
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woelen
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@karlos³: I see a tendency in your posts to add non-relevant comments which distract from the main subject of the thread. This is a very effective
way of diluting threads and having them going south. Please try to avoid that and try to remain on-topic. A little going to a side-topic is not an
issue, but going completely off-topic derails threads very easily.
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| Quote: Originally posted by woelen | | @karlos³: I see a tendency in your posts to add non-relevant comments which distract from the main subject of the thread. This is a very effective
way of diluting threads and having them going south. Please try to avoid that and try to remain on-topic. A little going to a side-topic is not an
issue, but going completely off-topic derails threads very easily. |
Woolen sir, I see humor, you see non-relevant. No harm, no foul.
Please do not become too puritan.
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woelen
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Point is clear. Let's try to find a good balance in this.
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Why not both? I see this as irrelevant humour
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Yeah, they were based not far from where I live. Personally I think the extradition was ridiculous because they were supplying materials that are
totally unrestricted in the UK. But, we have an unfair extradition treaty with the USA...
Then again, he was apparently a child abuser too so I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him.
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I thought you would stay in Whimsy?
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https://onyxmet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path...
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G-Coupled
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Those prices seem pretty good, and that store looks real handy, too. 
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Yes, onyxmet seems to be kind for EU, because when buying from outside of EU the parcel is checked by customs and you have to declare the content and
possibly hit the alert.
Sorry this article is in language most of you do not understand, but you can use online translator if interested. In short, 20 years young girl
living in my country hit the alert because buying 156 kg of P, 200 kg of I2, 140 l of H3PO4 and other chemicals during 3 months so custom officers
started to watch her and revealed illegal activities. But I believe that in case the girl did not use it illegally then no problem (she even had
registered business ID).
https://www.celnisprava.cz/cz/tiskove-zpravy/2018/Stranky/ce...
Anyway better to avoid any checks - intra EU is not checked.
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