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mr.crow
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Yes, long term storage of nasty things!
Hopefully the sketchy web store actually works and sends my caps. Shipping was a huge ripoff, like usual from the States
I also bought Len1's book on amazon.ca. "Usually ships within 1 to 3 months" WTF?
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Back when I was selling MMO anodes and shipping them from the USA worldwide, the shipping costs were extreme... I hope you understand it is the
shipping companies that are ripping us all off, not the chemical companies. 
The options were typically like this...
Private shipping companies - $25 to $50 and a week to 10 days
Postal services premium express mail - same deal
Surface shipments - $12, but 6 to 8 weeks!
So it's a no-win situation. Then, there's customs fees and sometimes customs confiscations, which the buyer sometimes blames on the shipper! Of
course, in those cases, it's the country laws themselves which are at fault.
Re: the book, my guess is it is a print to order book.
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1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.
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Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket  | | 1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.
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Don't dispose of it like that guy did with hydrazine  . Try and find a polypropylene
or Ryton (PPS) or Teflon container as they are suitable for storage according to a compatibility chart.
If you can't find one, convert it to a salt and ship it to me  .
[Edited on 26-11-2012 by borrowedlawyer]
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| Quote: Originally posted by borrowedlawyer | | Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket | | 1L of 50% HF in what seems to be an inappropriate bottle... Now I am debating disposing of it or rebottling it into something more suitable... Damn.
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Don't dispose of it like that guy did with hydrazine . Try and find a polypropylene
or Ryton (PPS) or Teflon container as they are suitable for storage according to a compatibility chart.
If you can't find one, convert it to a salt and ship it to me .
[Edited on 26-11-2012 by borrowedlawyer] |
I just took it because the person was throwing it away, it's double contained. When I opened the first container I was greeted by a thick plastic
bottle made of some sort of plastic that has a yellow tint to it, also it isn't the chemical suppliers bottle. The plastic seems very fragile, like I
could fracture the bottle by squeezing it. Ill leave it as is until I buy a better bottle and a tube of calcium gluconate gel.
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Just ordered some small volumes of,
aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes!
Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects.
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Mailinmypocket
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| Quote: Originally posted by smaerd | Just ordered some small volumes of,
aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes!
Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects. |
Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult. I just bought a small cylinder of argon from BOC gases,
still need to find an affordable regulator though.
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Will elemental scientific ship to Canada? It's pretty expensive from them(18$ for ~114g). Then again it sure beats making benzene, making nitric acid,
nitrating and reducing. I'm sure some amateurs will disagree with that, but I'm content with saving my benzene for other E.A.S. reactions. Aniline
opens a lot of synthetic door-ways really excited! I'm still waiting on getting an inert gas tank(probably go cheap and go for N2), I don't really
need one yet, but it sure would be nice for some of the research projects I have in mind.
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| Quote: Originally posted by smaerd | | Will elemental scientific ship to Canada? It's pretty expensive from them(18$ for ~114g). Then again it sure beats making benzene, making nitric acid,
nitrating and reducing. I'm sure some amateurs will disagree with that, but I'm content with saving my benzene for other E.A.S. reactions. Aniline
opens a lot of synthetic door-ways really excited! I'm still waiting on getting an inert gas tank(probably go cheap and go for N2), I don't really
need one yet, but it sure would be nice for some of the research projects I have in mind. |
They ship to Canada but the price is ridiculous... I wouldn't mind paying their price for the chemical but if I remember correctly including shipping,
a poison pack and something else but I forget what, it was going to be like 60 bucks for the smallest size screw that! I have benzene but I'd rather keep it for other projects.
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Benzene can be easily made in ridiculous quantities. Anyone can get ahold of sodium benzoate and sodium hydroxide. In the mindset of a home chemist it
is a "renewable" resource. I don't see why you'd want to "save" it. Make a liter and convert it to nitrobenzene, bromobenzene, chlorobenzene,
alkylbenzenes and acylbenzenes... Then you're set!
This just in: 95,5 % of the world population lives outside the USA
Please drop by our IRC channel: #sciencemadness @ irc.efnet.org
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Mailinmypocket
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lambda-Eyde | | Benzene can be easily made in ridiculous quantities. Anyone can get ahold of sodium benzoate and sodium hydroxide. In the mindset of a home chemist it
is a "renewable" resource. I don't see why you'd want to "save" it. Make a liter and convert it to nitrobenzene, bromobenzene, chlorobenzene,
alkylbenzenes and acylbenzenes... Then you're set! |
Right now my current living situation makes it difficult to make benzene unfortunately. Living in the city with lots of snoop-a-holics on all three
sides of my backyard makes me leery of doing it out there. Indoors is out of the question, some things I will do but distilling benzene? Hmmm nah! I'm
"saving" the almost 1l I have because it is mallinckrodt reagent grade and was pretty damned expensive when I bought it. I'm not that pressed to get
aniline anyways, although it would be nice 
Also just got back from the "chemical store" in town and got:
4 litres glacial acetic - 21.99 CAD
4 litres 28% ammonia solution- 12.95 CAD
4 litres denatured EtOH - 18 CAD
The chemical store is like the candy shop for chemists!
[Edited on 1-12-2012 by Mailinmypocket]
[Edited on 1-12-2012 by Mailinmypocket]
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IrC
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| Quote: Originally posted by Mailinmypocket | | Quote: Originally posted by smaerd | Just ordered some small volumes of,
aniline
formaldehyde
sulfuric acid
30% ammonium hydroxide soln.
toluene
and some new electrodes!
Can't wait for them to come! Finally have enough glass-ware to actually work on some fun synthesis projects. |
Aniline! Nice! I'm looking for a source of it in Canada but it is proving to be difficult. I just bought a small cylinder of argon from BOC gases,
still need to find an affordable regulator though. |
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p3984.m570.l1311&...
Link for ebay search, first one only 2 bucks so far if you read this in 12 hours or less. Looks like several are around 50 bucks for what it's worth.
Wondering if a Nitrogen regulator could be used. Seems like 3 to 4 thousand PSI maximum is typical for a tank of either gas.
Out of curiosity I searched for mercury metal, seems like you can no longer list it. Just a few years ago I saw it in many listings. Has ebay become a
wasteland for much of our hobby? Getting impossible to find many things now which sucks as private parties getting rid of their lab supplies used to
be great for bargains.
[Edited on 12-1-2012 by IrC]
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UnintentionalChaos
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Try buying acetanilide. In the US at least, this is not considered hazardous for shipping, it is a solid, and it is rapidly hydrolyzed by warming with
HCl and then basifying. The dark oil is then steam distilled, salted out, dried with NaOH or KOH, and vacuum distilled to water-clear aniline in good
yield.
[Edited on 12-1-12 by UnintentionalChaos]
Department of Redundancy Department - Now with paperwork!
'In organic synthesis, we call decomposition products "crap", however this is not a IUPAC approved nomenclature.' -Nicodem
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smaerd
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Pretty sure aniline hydrochloride also gets around the hazardous shipping.
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Mailinmypocket
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| Quote: Originally posted by UnintentionalChaos |
Try buying acetanilide. In the US at least, this is not considered hazardous for shipping, it is a solid, and it is rapidly hydrolyzed by warming with
HCl and then basifying. The dark oil is then steam distilled, salted out, dried with NaOH or KOH, and vacuum distilled to water-clear aniline in good
yield.
[Edited on 12-1-12 by UnintentionalChaos] |
That sounds like a relatively easy method and an interesting process. I can get acetanilide on eBay - Thanks! Ill give it a try
IrC: I placed a bid on the first one, my cylinder is at 11,500kPa so that regulator can easily handle it. I was just a bit uncertain of buying those
on eBay due to safety concerns but it looks fine. Still 12 hours on the bid though so we will see where it gets to.
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Appears you have been outbid by half a buck with 6 hours to go. Looks like NOS just stored somewhere the box got a little roughed up. If you get it
for under $40 you are still saving money.
"Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" Richard Feynman
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mr.crow
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Has anyone seen the eBay listing of 5 chemical bottles for $100? It was a pain in the butt to decode all the CAS numbers and all the good stuff
appears to be gone. I did get a few good things out of it
Also, has anyone heard of http://www.erlenmeyers.com/? I ordered some super fancy GL45 bottle caps, but they haven't even processed the order yet >: ( thank gawd for
paypal
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mr.crow
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Yay my expensive-ass caps shipped!
To bad I won't be able to do any experiments for a long time moving
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UnintentionalChaos
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Department of Redundancy Department - Now with paperwork!
'In organic synthesis, we call decomposition products "crap", however this is not a IUPAC approved nomenclature.' -Nicodem
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mr.crow
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Haha Yes
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2lb KOH
500ml Tert-Butanol
1lb Ammonium Perchlorate
1lb German Dark Al
1lb Magnalium
1lb KCLO4
and a bunch of other glassware
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Not really chemicals, but I just got some items from elemental scientific...
2 150ml Pyrex beakers
2 250ml Pyrex beakers
1 400ml Pyrex beaker
1 600ml Pyrex beaker
1 1000ml Pyrex beaker
2 250ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flasks
1 500ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flask
1 1000ml Pyrex Erlenmeyer flask
1 Thermometer, -30 to 50 C
2 Thermometer, -10 to 250 C
1 Thermometer, -10 to 400 C
1 Filter Paper, Qualitative, Fast Flow, 70mm
The thermometers are all nice mercury ones, and the glass is all Pyrex, and all for less than $90 too. I love elemental...
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5g Pt on carbon, 5%
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| Quote: Originally posted by Kaifas | Sodium salts dissolves much better than potassium salts so it is reason to use both potassium and sodium. I use oxidizers to do some Copper perclorate
(binds strongly to nitrogen bases) and copper(III) compounds and making different copper complexes . Copper(I)cyanade goes to Gillman reagents.
Copper(II)chloride is starting material to do Glacer couplings. Copper powder goes to Ullman coupling reactions.
Sodium nitrate is exellent for mild nitration systems because of good solubility.
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Except for the hydroxide in ethanol;
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Occasionally you'll see one chemical for sale on ebay, and the rest of the stuff junk. In this category I've: Nitroethane, propiophenone, and I
believe 3-4-5 trimethoxy benzaldehyde>. That is a set up, and order any one of these, just realize you'll be scrutinized for at least 2 years, if
not more.
all dea needs to do these days is place a CAM (short for a dedicated GC). If the cam smells the right smell, you will be scrutinized even further.
It's kind of queer (NOT that there is anything wrong with it) how different chemicals/API's are restricted or not depending on local. From what I
understand, buying anti-histamines is very difficult in Au, as are Amino Acids. Go figure?!
In Germany, Melatonin is very watched, and can only be supplied by a physician for a 20 day supply, no refills.
Tramadol is culprit numero uno basically in the whole middle east. Strange.
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