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2,6-dinitro 4-acetaminophenol + Potassium Chlorate
After a year of procrastination,im coming back with a new energetic mixture containing DNAc and potassium chlorate in a 60:40 ratio.
Properties:burns very quick(flashpowder like).
Detonates from heat, if its well confined.
Detonates confined and unconfined when hit with a hammer.
A bam test will be done to determine its sensitivity.
Friction insensitive (suprising for a chlorate mixture)
*More info will be posted once enough research is done*
Questions and help is always appreciated.
[Edited on 26-1-2024 by Energetics-testin]
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What’s your source of nitroacetaminophenol? Nitrating paracetamol? Is the DNAc itself a high explosive? If not, I see great potential in this as a
binary NPED that can be prepared onsite.
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Yes, I nitrate purified acetaminophen extracted from tylenols.
I dont believe that pure dinitroacetaminophen is explosive at all, it is barely able to burn.
It doesn't detonate when hit with strong hammer blows and doesn't detonate when confined and heated.
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Energetics-testin.......If this chlorate mixture can initiate ETN, it will be an interesting alternative in the ignition....![:cool:](./images/smilies/cool.gif)
However, there are many binary compounds with KCLO3 that behave as described but do not have initiation properties.
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As always, thanks for the information doctor, I will definitely do some tests to see if it is able to detonate ETN.
I will however do more sensitivity tests before to be sure that it is safe to work with.
Let's hope for the best ![:cool:](./images/smilies/cool.gif)
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How did you nitrate the acetaminophen? I’d assume the acetyl group is hydrolyzed by conc acid (HNO3 or H2SO4) at high temps required for the
addition of the second nitro group, and in that case, you might’ve formed 2(3),5(6)-dinitro-4-aminophenol.
I’d argue the p-aminophenol analogue is better than the acetyl counterpart simply due to OB and the stabilization that the unprotected amine
imparts. Also, if the 4-aminophenol is actually formed, nitration at the 3 or 5 position followed by nitrosation could form the benzotriazole which is
an even better base EM to nitrate.
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I followed the paper posted by nitro-genes and roscobodine on how to make p-ddnp,during the synthese (second step) we have to nitrate paracetamol,they
talk a bit about why the nitro groups chooses these position instead of the other way.explosions and fire also talks a bit about the nitration and
tells us why the nitro groups are choosing these placements.
Oh,seems quite intresting,i'm gonna look into that.
Nitrogenes & rosco's writeup on p-DDNP and isopicramic acid.
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/files.php?pid=419166&...
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I completely forgot about DDNP, my apologies. It does look like the nitro groups are unable to be directed towards the 3 and/or 5 position, so
cyclization to the benzotriazole could be practically impossible.
The isopicramate/chlorate mix could might have promise though, good luck with it and be safe
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No worries.
I will definitely try to experiment with isopicramate,thanks!
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Would this work with sodium picramate or picramic acid (2-amino-4,6-dinitrophenol) made from picric acid? I made some with the intention of making
DDNP, then discovered NHN.
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I will test it if you dont first,I have some old picric acid lying in a cabinet somewhere, I just need to turn it into sodium picramate.
I will however have to check the compatibility of chlorates with picramates and isopicramates before proceeding.
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Unfortunately, the DNAc mixture cannot be used to initiate ETN.
The isopicramic acid/KClO3 mixture looks way more promising than the DNAc/KClO3 mixture.
To be tested.
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Energetics-testin...For example KClO3 + potassium ascorbate looks a like primer according properties on air. Unfortunatley, in solid cavity are his
properties weak. Preparation is same as for TEJO game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZqG3RGFQVc
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