nimgoldman
Hazard to Others
Posts: 303
Registered: 11-6-2018
Member Is Offline
|
|
Preparing "Neutral" Copper(II) Nitrate Solution for Aldehyde Synthesis
I want to prepare a copper(II) nitrate solution for the synthesis of an aldehyde, e.g. benzaldehyde from benzyl chloride:
I was thinking about first simply dissolving copper in a small amount of conc. nitric acid, then diluting the solution with water.
The solution made in this way will however contain excess nitric acid, which might over-oxidize the aldehyde product to carboxylic acid (??).
Here are some walk-arounds I am thinking of:
Isolate copper(II) nitrate first (lengthy procedure).
Add copper metal to a solution of silver(II) nitrate (requires recycling the silver compound free of acid, same
problem).
Neutralize the excess acid with a base (might precipitate the copper as carbonate or hydroxide).
Bubble air through the solution (neutralize the excess acid w. carbon dioxide).
Boil off the excess nitric acid before dilution.
Maybe the little excess nitric acid might not be an issue in the first place, but I would like to be sure.
|
|
DraconicAcid
International Hazard
Posts: 4355
Registered: 1-2-2013
Location: The tiniest college campus ever....
Member Is Offline
Mood: Semi-victorious.
|
|
If you add excess copper(II) carbonate (basic or otherwise) to your nitric acid, and filter out the excess, you should have a bare minumum of excess
nitric acid.
Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
|
|
AJKOER
Radically Dubious
Posts: 3026
Registered: 7-5-2011
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Try adding CuSO4 to aqueous KNO3 and freeze out the potassium sulfate hydrate!
Note, KNO3 is widely and cheaply available. If you cannot find any CuSO4, see http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=151055... for a home prep path (requires NaHSO4).
[Edited on 6-11-2019 by AJKOER]
|
|
elementcollector1
International Hazard
Posts: 2684
Registered: 28-12-2011
Location: The Known Universe
Member Is Offline
Mood: Molten
|
|
Crystallize the nitrate out at low temperature and redissolve it? Or would some acid become trapped in the crystal structure?
Elements Collected:52/87
Latest Acquired: Cl
Next in Line: Nd
|
|
nimgoldman
Hazard to Others
Posts: 303
Registered: 11-6-2018
Member Is Offline
|
|
Yes this is valid. I pulled out the procedure from Armarego et. al. (Purification of Laboratory Chemicals) and they also describe recrystallization
from conc. aqueous soln. (0.5 mL/g):
Quote: | Cupric nitrate trihydrate [10031-43-3 (3H2O), 3251-23-8 (anhydrous)] M 241.6, m 114o, b 170o(dec), d 4 20
2.0. Crystallise it from weak aqueous HNO3 (0.5ml/g) by cooling from room temperature. The anhydrous salt
can be prepared by dissolving copper metal in a 1:1 mixture of liquid NO2 and ethyl acetate and purified by
sublimation [Evans et al. J Chem Soc, Faraday Trans 1 75 1023 1979]. The hexahydrate dehydrates to the
trihydrate at 26o, and the anhydrous salt sublimes between 150 and 225o, but melts at 255-256o and is
deliquescent. |
I would then let the crystals air-dry at mild temperature of 26-50 °C, crush and re-dry to get just the trihydrate (for stoichiometry), then quickly
move the crystalline powder to a vacuum desiccator for final drying.
But I like the approach of DraconicAcid most - dissolution of basic copper carbonate in nitric acid - this way there is no hassle with elemental
metals, no nitrogen dioxide fumes.
If copper carbonate is not available, then perhaps the approach of AJKOER. I have CuSO4 at hand, as well as NaNO3. I can get KNO3 as well.
|
|
Sulaiman
International Hazard
Posts: 3721
Registered: 8-2-2015
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
Member Is Offline
|
|
copper(II) nitrate decomposes at 256oC so you could just boil to dryness (anhydrous if required) ?
CAUTION : Hobby Chemist, not Professional or even Amateur
|
|
nimgoldman
Hazard to Others
Posts: 303
Registered: 11-6-2018
Member Is Offline
|
|
Yes, but I am afraid some sublimation may happen and perhaps even some low level decomposition (unless very evened-out heating is provided - e.g. lab
oven).
Since I need just the aqueous solution (free of nitric acid), I think the suggestions provided so far will work okay.
|
|
G-Coupled
Hazard to Others
Posts: 287
Registered: 9-3-2017
Member Is Offline
Mood: Slightly triturated
|
|
What might Copper Nitrate decompose into at such temps, I wonder?
[Edited on 6-11-2019 by G-Coupled]
|
|
Abromination
Hazard to Others
Posts: 432
Registered: 10-7-2018
Location: Alaska
Member Is Offline
Mood: 1,4 tar
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid | If you add excess copper(II) carbonate (basic or otherwise) to your nitric acid, and filter out the excess, you should have a bare minumum of excess
nitric acid. |
I second this, this is what I have done in the past.
List of materials made by ScienceMadness.org users:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nmJ8uq-h4IkXPxD5svnT...
--------------------------------
Elements Collected: H, Li, B, C, N, O, Mg, Al, Si, P, S, Fe, Ni, Cu, Zn, Ag, I, Au, Pb, Bi, Am
Last Acquired: B
Next: Na
--------------
|
|
AJKOER
Radically Dubious
Posts: 3026
Registered: 7-5-2011
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I would not boil in air/oxygen contact an acidic transition metal salt, in general, due to possible basic salt formation!
In the case of Cu(NO3)2, there exists a basic nitrate salt per Atomistry (see http://copper.atomistry.com/cupric_nitrate.html ). To quote:
"The heat of formation of the anhydrous salt from its elements is 71.49 Cal.; that in solution is 81.96 Cal. Thomsen's value for the heat of formation
of the hexahydrate from the anhydrous salt and liquid water is 21-18 Cal., and from its elements and water 92.94 Cal. It yields a green, basic salt,
Cu(NO3)2,3Cu(OH)2. "
Per another source (see https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/proceedings-of-the-r... ) to quote:
"The only basic nitrate of copper appears to be Cu(NO3)2. 3Cu(OH)2. The product obtained by heating the trihydrate to 100° has this composition, and
is not Cu(NO3)2. "
[Edited on 6-11-2019 by AJKOER]
|
|
Pumukli
National Hazard
Posts: 708
Registered: 2-3-2014
Location: EU
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Nimgoldman, do you have a published procedure with copper-nitrate what you try to follow? Could you post this procedure? I'm curious about this
reaction.
|
|
AJKOER
Radically Dubious
Posts: 3026
Registered: 7-5-2011
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by AJKOER |
I would not boil in air/oxygen contact an acidic transition metal salt, in general, due to possible basic salt formation!
... |
where the net reaction can be express as:
4 Cu(l)/Fe(ll)/Co(ll)... (aq) + O2 + 2 H+ --> 4 Cu(ll)/Fe(lll)/Co(lll) + 2 OH- (see http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=81800#... )
Prior comment outlying the chemistry:
Quote: Originally posted by AJKOER |
............
First, the action of water on an aqua cupric complex:
[Cu(H2O)6]2+ (aq) + H2O (l) = [Cu(H2O)5(OH)]+ (aq) + H3O+ (aq)
Second, a redox couple equilibrium reaction leading to a presence of cuprous:
Cu(ll) + Fe(ll) = Cu(l) + Fe(lll)
which is acted on by oxygen bubbles in near boiling water consuming H+ based on the net reaction derived from a 2013 radical reaction supplement,
"Impacts of aerosols on the chemistry of atmospheric trace gases: a case study of peroxides radicals"', by H. Liang1, Z. M. Chen1, D.
Huang1, Y. Zhao1 and Z. Y. Li, link: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&... :
R24 O2(aq) + Cu+ → Cu2+ + O2− ( k = 4.6xE05 )
R27 O2− + Cu+ + 2 H+ → Cu2+ + H2O2 ( k = 9.4xE09 )
R25 H2O2 + Cu+ → Cu2+ + .OH + OH− ( k= 7.0 xE03 )
R23 .OH + Cu+ → Cu2+ + OH− ( k = 3.0×E09 )
Net reaction: O2 + 4 Cu+ + 2 H+ → 4 Cu2+ + 2 OH-
Electrolysis reference: See p. 7 at https://www.utc.edu/faculty/tom-rybolt/pdfs/electrochem2014.... for the reverse reaction with 2 H+ adding to each side. Alternate source of the
above reaction, per my records, but access to the full article is no longer free, see: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262451840_Review_of... .
[Edited on 14-4-2018 by AJKOER] |
For those interested in the possible underlying mechanics of the reaction in acid conditions (pH <4.88, as superoxide, •O2-, exists at pH only
above 4.88), I suggest:
4 x [ Cu(l) —> Cu(ll) + e- ]
2 x [ H+ + e- = •H ]
•H + O2 —> •HO2
•HO2 + e- —> HO2-
H2O = H+ + OH-
H+ + HO2- = H2O2
e- + H2O2 —> OH- + •OH
•H + •OH —> H2O
Net reaction in acidic conditions:
4 Cu(l) (aq) + O2 + 2 H+ —> 4 Cu(ll) (aq) + 2 OH-
-----------------------------------------------------
Some sources suggest the process continues with Cu(ll) going to Cu(llll):
4 Cu(ll) (aq) + O2 + 2 H+ —> 4 Cu(lll) (aq) + 2 OH- (see https://books.google.com/books?id=6TImAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA105&... )
[Edited on 7-11-2019 by AJKOER]
|
|
nimgoldman
Hazard to Others
Posts: 303
Registered: 11-6-2018
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Pumukli | Nimgoldman, do you have a published procedure with copper-nitrate what you try to follow? Could you post this procedure? I'm curious about this
reaction. |
Yes the procedure is taken from here:
https://www.prepchem.com/synthesis-of-benzaldehyde/
Source: "Cohen, Julius Berend. A class-book of organic chemistry. Vol. 1. Macmillan and Co., limited, 1920."
Alternatively, you can also use Sommelet reaction to convert the benzyl halide to aldehyde.
|
|
DraconicAcid
International Hazard
Posts: 4355
Registered: 1-2-2013
Location: The tiniest college campus ever....
Member Is Offline
Mood: Semi-victorious.
|
|
No, it's Cu(2+) + 2 H2O --> 2 H(+) + Cu(OH)2, with the copper(II) hydroxide combining with copper(II) nitrate/chloride/sulphate/whatever to give
a basic salt. I know you think that everything is a free radical redox reaction, but this isn't one.
Please remember: "Filtrate" is not a verb.
Write up your lab reports the way your instructor wants them, not the way your ex-instructor wants them.
|
|
wg48temp9
National Hazard
Posts: 786
Registered: 30-12-2018
Location: not so United Kingdom
Member Is Offline
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Pumukli | Nimgoldman, do you have a published procedure with copper-nitrate what you try to follow? Could you post this procedure? I'm curious about this
reaction. |
I was curious about the reaction also. Apparently the Cu(II) is reduced to Cu(I) chloride and the nitrate to nitrite. I guess the reaction is driven
by the insolubility of Cu(i) chloride.
Apparently copper(ii) nitrate can be used for a variety of oxidation reactions see:
Attachment: copper-nitrate-oxidiser-gao2018.pdf (1.1MB) This file has been downloaded 409 times
I am wg48 but not on my usual pc hence the temp handle.
Thank goodness for Fleming and the fungi.
Old codger' lives matters, wear a mask and help save them.
Be aware of demagoguery, keep your frontal lobes fully engaged.
I don't know who invented mRNA vaccines but they should get a fancy medal and I hope they made a shed load of money from it.
|
|
AJKOER
Radically Dubious
Posts: 3026
Registered: 7-5-2011
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by DraconicAcid | ......
No, it's Cu(2+) + 2 H2O --> 2 H(+) + Cu(OH)2, with the copper(II) hydroxide combining with copper(II) nitrate/chloride/sulphate/whatever to give
a basic salt. I know you think that everything is a free radical redox reaction, but this isn't one. |
Actually, Cu3+ is a suggested non-radical based active agent occurring in lieu of the hydroxyl radical. To cite a source "Degradation of contaminants
by Cu+-activated molecular oxygen in aqueous solutions: Evidence for cupryl species (Cu3+)" at https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28246040, to quote:
"Copper ions (Cu2+ and Cu+) have shown potential as Fenton-like activators for the circumneutral removal of organic contaminants from aqueous
solutions. However, the major active species (cupryl species (Cu3+) versus hydroxyl radical (OH)) produced during the activation of hydrogen peroxide
by Cu+ remain unclear. In this study, Cu+-O2 oxidation, in which hydrogen peroxide is produced via the activated decomposition of dissolved molecular
oxygen, was used to degrade sulfadiazine, methylene blue, and benzoic acid. The results showed that both sulfadiazine and methylene blue could be
efficiently degraded by Cu+-O2 oxidation in a wide effective pH range from 2.0 to 10.0. Quenching experiments with different alcohols and the effect
of Br- suggested that Cu3+ rather than OH was the major active species"
I speculatively agree with your suggested products involving Cu2+ and OH- that may be sourced via Cu3+ formation.
[Edited on 12-11-2019 by AJKOER]
|
|