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When I was a child I used to make chlorine gas by dripping 98% sulfuric acid onto pool grade calcium hypochlorite granules. The gypsum product acts as
a desiccant. The reaction is rapid. It's a miracle I made it to adulthood, others say I never did ![:D](./images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
2CaOCl + 2H2SO4 => 2CaSO4.H2O(s) + Cl2(g)
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Why my final product is so dark?
I used HCl + Hypochlorite Calcium garnular as Cl generator.
I added some sulfur and redistilled product and got a lighter (edit:red) liquid instead of very dark red first one.
Is it useful to distill again for get more pure product? simple or vacuum?which is better?
[Edited on 19-3-2019 by Feriman]
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The dark red is probably SCl2, which is red; S2Cl2 is yellow-orange.
The product has a strong tendency to degrade, so it is best used quickly. It may be possible to improve the storage by storing it under some kind of
solvent which won't dissolve it -- alkanes are the most likely candidate, although decamethylcyclopentasiloxane, if available, has a unique reputation
as an especially poor solvent for many compounds. Other permethylcyclosiloxanes have similar properties. Joints on the storage flask should probably
be wax-coated to prevent sticking.
[Edited on 19-3-2019 by clearly_not_atara]
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So if I leave it some days doest it convert to S2Cl2? How long it takes?
+EDIT: I reflux it for 1hr but no change in color ![:(](./images/smilies/sad.gif)
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Adding sulfur is more than sufficient for converting SCl2 to S2Cl2. I'm not sure what is causing the red coloration, but if I had to guess, maybe
there was some iron in the sulfur and you have FeCl3 in the sulfur chloride? FeCl3 has an annoying habit of coming over during some types of
distillation, due to its tendency to form diatomic molecules with Lewis acids (particularly FeCl3*AlCl3).
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Polysulfides are red. It could be that.
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How could polysulfides possibly form? There is nothing in the flasks that could form polysulfides.
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I wasn't thinking of ionic polysulfides, but more along the lines of long chains of sulfur atoms. (SxCl2)
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Is it possible to dissolve sulfur in Sulfur Chloride solution(that I prepare by this method) for make more Sulfur Chloride,instead of melting sulfur?
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SxCl2 + Na2Sy = S(x+y) (long chain of S)+ 2NaCl,
will this work?
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Quote: Originally posted by Feriman ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Is it possible to dissolve sulfur in Sulfur Chloride solution(that I prepare by this method) for make more Sulfur Chloride,instead of melting sulfur?
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One friend reports success with this method.
Quote: | SxCl2 + Na2Sy = S(x+y) (long chain of S)+ 2NaCl,
will this work? |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_sulfur#Solid_cyc...
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Scl2 can apparently be made by heating NaCl + s8 together like a destructive distillation.im keen on trying it with nabr but upon googling it I
probably won't now as it's so unstable and I have no use for it compared to s2cl2 or scl2.no point in going through that much stink unless there's an
immediate need for it.thionyl chloride for example.
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Quote: Originally posted by draculic acid69 ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Scl2 can apparently be made by heating NaCl + s8 together like a destructive distillation.im keen on trying it with nabr but upon googling it I
probably won't now as it's so unstable and I have no use for it compared to s2cl2 or scl2.no point in going through that much stink unless there's an
immediate need for it.thionyl chloride for example. |
Kind of unsure about what you are referring to that is unstable, the SCl2 or a route with NaBr. The SX2 will disproportionate back into S2X2, and will
continue to do so since S2X2 is stable.
S2X2 would be nice to have on hand as it can be used for some of the same reactions that calls for SOCl2. I have a liter of Br2 that has been waiting
for some time to experiment with S2Br2, and acid bromide/anhydride formation. I have even recrystallized about 800g of sulfur for these experiments.
[Edited on 27-3-2019 by Loptr]
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Is reaction between sulfur chlorides and air moisture an exometric reaction?
Because when I opened lid of the container which I keep my product in it,I feel exited warm air from that.
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The NaBr route produces an unstable gaseous compound is what I was referring to.
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