Sciencemadness Discussion Board
Not logged in [Login ]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: potassium nitrousamine
Cappy
Hazard to Self
**




Posts: 92
Registered: 27-3-2003
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 15-4-2003 at 21:35
potassium nitrousamine


"I accidentally made Potassium nitrousamine (which is really carcenogenic), and then inhaled a great lungfull of it..." - Ramiel

How do you make this? I think it would be good if people knew how (not) to make it since it can be accidentally made so easily.
View user's profile View All Posts By User
Ramiel
Vicious like a ferret
***




Posts: 484
Registered: 19-8-2002
Location: Room at the Back, Australia
Member Is Offline

Mood: Semi-demented

cool.gif posted on 15-4-2003 at 22:21


It's spelled 'nitrosamine'.

A Google search reveals that it is commonly encountered via an incubated environment, from nitrites and gastric juices. I certainly didn’t spew in the reaction (although I may have later :( )

It was just Potassium nitrite and Al/Al<sub>2</sub>O<sub>3</sub> at temperatures of around 60-80 deg. C (I can’t remember). As <html><u>do</u></html> remember, I was evaporating the water in a nitrite solution.

I suspect the Aluminum catalyzed the reaction somehow, I don’t know exactly how that would work though (primarily why I didn’t anticipate such a calamity).

Perhaps more 3l3te chemists can shed some light on this little matter.




Caveat Orator
View user's profile View All Posts By User This user has MSN Messenger
Nick F
Hazard to Others
***




Posts: 439
Registered: 7-9-2002
Member Is Offline

Mood: No Mood

[*] posted on 19-4-2003 at 04:12
Potasssium nitrosamine?


Is that the same as potassium hyponitrite, K2N2O2?
2 K (+) O-N=N-O (2-)
Which is formed by reducing nitrites with Al/Hg,
Or do you think you produced a bit of ammonia (which is done by reducing nitrates/nitrites in alkaline conditions with metals - Al, Zn etc), and then this reacted further with nitrite ions to produce the potassium salt of nitrosamine, K (+) H-N-N=O (-)

I remember that I once tried to produce hydrazine by reducing NaNO2 with Al, I don't remember exactly what I did but I came back to the reaction a little while later to find that it'd thrown caustic solution all over the place, with a strong ammonia smell.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top