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Only Half Human
Apparently we're nowhere near 100% Human tissue.
The following article states that the majority of the human 'system' is made up of microbes.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-43674270
I'll never feel bad if i get called a bacterium or amoeba again.
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On a per mass basis you are mostly human. On a per cell basis you are mostly gut bacteria. Bacteria cells are a whole lot smaller than mammalian
cells.
I happen to value things like lifespan, varied diet and limbs. I think they contribute more to who I am than my gut flora. So whenever I am talking
about identity I discount the microbes that travel with me.
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Kinda makes people look like idiots when they say ‘we’re all human’.
But yes, we are teeming with foreign invaders that like to profit off our energy input and efforts. I guess it’s a good thing that some of them want
to give back to us, unwittingly of course, but we’re better off with them inside our bodies.
In chemistry, sometimes the solution is the problem.
It’s been a while, but I’m not dead! Updated 7/1/2020. Shout out to Aga, we got along well.
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Some things we cannot get for ourselves.
We very much needing the help of some microbes to stay alive.
Vitamin B12 for example cannot be absorbed to any significant extent without the help of bacteria.
The relationship is symbiotic in those cases.
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On a related note, I have kombucha and vinegar mothers that I will gladly donate (minus shipping) to any (health) interested scientists.
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Kombucha thea is at the least not proven beneficial, at the worst downright dangerous. There are even countries where Kombucha is illegal because of
the health dangers.
For vinegar you can just do a aerobic yeast fermentation.
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Half human, half alcohol!
"Opportunity is missed by most people
because it is dressed in overalls and it
looks like work" T.A. Edison
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Vinegar grows from a bacterium, not a yeast.
That is why you might need a mother.
Also, I guarantee that my kombucha cultures are free from contamination, and produce a consistent product. They are not a brine, they are a many
inches thick biological mass. If not, I would not be giving them away.
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Its ok some famous people arnt human lol
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HoLQ2-Udiyo
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I loves me some kombucha. Haven't had time to make it my self in a while, but I use to in faithfully lockstep on consumption of 2/3 to 3/4 of the
brew. But I really liked it after 30 days best. None of that light tasting crud unless I could help it. You can slice the mother into chunks, throw
it in the vitablender, and drink the some'bitch. Leave it open an mixing for 2 min to fold in some air and it kills the vinegar flavor should you
object, I do not. Like a mix between a soft Apple and squash flavor. Easily flavored with fruit and such. It does work for me, really helped
flexibility for my tired and sore tendons/joints. Drywall is not nice to the body.
Happyfooddance : I'd be interested to see some of the kombucha mother freezedried and graphetized like Careysub's bread -> carbon foam thread.
Basically anything to try and keep it dimensionally stable and consistent density, air drying would not work. Can't wait to start growing the stuff
again for this reason alone. The mother grown over a support and then baked would be COOL.
"Carbon Foam Refractory Made From Bread"
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=70...
Just tried keifer recently and that stuffs not bad.
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not to nit-pick but tissues are a collection of similar cells preforming a function. Bacteria are prokaryotes and thus are exclusively single
cellular, they can not form tissues. They will however often work together through quorum sensing and also make biofilms.
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
Within cells interlinked
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ISTR that the Portugese Man 'o War jellyfish is more like a pile of bacterial colonies than an 'integrated' sort of creature.
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Quote: Originally posted by violet sin  | I loves me some kombucha. Haven't had time to make it my self in a while, but I use to in faithfully lockstep on consumption of 2/3 to 3/4 of the
brew. But I really liked it after 30 days best. None of that light tasting crud unless I could help it. You can slice the mother into chunks, throw
it in the vitablender, and drink the some'bitch. Leave it open an mixing for 2 min to fold in some air and it kills the vinegar flavor should you
object, I do not. Like a mix between a soft Apple and squash flavor. Easily flavored with fruit and such. It does work for me, really helped
flexibility for my tired and sore tendons/joints. Drywall is not nice to the body.
Happyfooddance : I'd be interested to see some of the kombucha mother freezedried and graphetized like Careysub's bread -> carbon foam thread.
Basically anything to try and keep it dimensionally stable and consistent density, air drying would not work. Can't wait to start growing the stuff
again for this reason alone. The mother grown over a support and then baked would be COOL.
"Carbon Foam Refractory Made From Bread"
https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=70...
Just tried keifer recently and that stuffs not bad. |
I love a carbonated drink, and coca-cola just doesn't sit right with my soul. That is why I drink kombucha.
I have heard of people (businesses) adding the biomass to smoothies, for an extra cost, of course.
Your idea about kombucha carbon has me thinking... I freeze dried some strawberries once. It took about two weeks for about a quarter pound of
strawberries over CaCl2 for about 2 weeks (under aspirator vacuum). I make various types of carbon and I like how different their properties are.
The vinegar mother produces a nice biomass, in sheets. They call it "bioleather". They make purses and wallets out of it, for the hippie type. I
haven't done much experimenting with it, but it is here, and I think about it...
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Makes me wonder if we exist for the bacteria's benefit, rather than them for ours. As if we are nothing more than a gigantic organic cruise ship for a
bunch of bacteria to get around the world in.
Helicopter: "helico" -> spiral, "pter" -> with wings
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Lichen came to mind and as mentioned the Portuguese man o' war hydrozoa.
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Another tidbit recalled from my school days.
"Most species of Euglena have photosynthesizing chloroplasts within the body of the cell, which enable them to feed by autotrophy, like plants.
However, they can also take nourishment heterotrophically, like animals."
Wiki
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From wiki: "... can survive without light on a diet of organic matter, such as beef extract, peptone, acetate, ethanol ..."
I knew i wasn't 100% human. Must be part Euglena 
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