drzdude
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Looking to buy nitroethane
Looking for nitroethane for a synth of aminomethyl propanol, but amateur chemistry gods have to make my life hard living in the US. Anyone have some
they have no use for? Thanks!
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http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=78203#...
It's in Canada, so might be expensive shipping to the states... especially being a restricted chemical.
Hope this helps.
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drzdude
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Hey I actually U2U’d him about a week ago, but thanks a lot for the help!
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Then I don't know... Sorry. Depending on how much you need, it can be made. (But i'm almost sure it's cheaper to buy it somehow, the yields suck.)
https://erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/nitroethane.htm...
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drzdude
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Yeah the yields suck and none are even OTC, was hoping for a better solution.
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monolithic
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ACRIFIX 1S0117 or 1S0116 (Google it), if you can figure out a way of separating the nitroethane.
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Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to
separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)
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Search Klotz Nitro.
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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monolithic
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Isn't that nitropropane?
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Yes, I’m sorry.
Kiara Sky on eBay sells 15ml for $8.45 as a brush saver.
[Edited on 11-3-2018 by Magpie]
The single most important condition for a successful synthesis is good mixing - Nicodem
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monolithic
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Quote: Originally posted by Magpie  | Yes, I’m sorry.
Kiara Sky on eBay sells 15ml for $8.45 as a brush saver.
[Edited on 11-3-2018 by Magpie] |
I've never sat down to price out one of the "reasonable" syntheses of nitroethane (sodium ethylsulfate procedure, I guess) but is it any cheaper/more
expensive than $8.45/15ml?
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| Quote: Originally posted by Reboot |
Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to
separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)
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Why fractional distillation? Nitroethane has more than 25*c difference in BP to the other compounds except n-butanol. It might be easier to do
simple distillation and deal with the tiny butanol impurity if necessary.
No azeotropes to worry about either.
^^^ Referring to 0116 product.
[Edited on 12-3-2018 by Mesa]
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be sure its the good one,
the quick set use nitromethane that has a lower boiling point so it set faster.
[Edited on 12-3-2018 by nelsonB]
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I say distill off the nitroethane / butanol azeotrope (bp of 117.8c) and add potassium acetate to lower the volatility of the alcohol? Other than that
can’t find much literature on n-butanol forming an azeotrope with either benzene or methanol (both don’t form one with nitroethane) which could
have been useful.
| Quote: Originally posted by Mesa | | Quote: Originally posted by Reboot |
Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to
separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)
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Why fractional distillation? Nitroethane has more than 25*c difference in BP to the other compounds except n-butanol. It might be easier to do
simple distillation and deal with the tiny butanol impurity if necessary.
No azeotropes to worry about either.
^^^ Referring to 0116 product.
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https://www.acrylite-shop.com/US/us/details.htm?$product=ad3...
some thing I found when researching the stuff, handy as I do plexiglass work too! so need a good glue! 1gal for 170usd not bad at all
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drzdude
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Yeah that’s what we’re talking about above, thanks for the info though!
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the other components of this stuff would seem to impede a nitroaldol reaction. Huh.
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drzdude
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I think you’re right, but all but n-butanol are easy to separate, and the alcohol definitely wouldn’t be an issue.
| Quote: Originally posted by Melgar | | Correct me if I'm wrong, but none of the other components of this stuff would seem to impede a nitroaldol reaction. Huh. |
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Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous
[Edited on 24-3-2018 by nelsonB]
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monolithic
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| Quote: Originally posted by nelsonB | Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous
[Edited on 24-3-2018 by nelsonB] |
Maybe try e-mailing them? They could probably work out something cheaper than $500. It's not like you live in Borneo -- there's no reason it should be
that expensive.
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drzdude
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Sample bottle size shipping to Pennsylvania cost me 20$, it isn't cheap unfortunately. But yes 500$ is ridiculous!
| Quote: Originally posted by monolithic | | Quote: Originally posted by nelsonB | Just saw the shipping price to canada of acrylite-shop.com,
International Ground (residential): 492.09 USD
this is ridiculous
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Maybe try e-mailing them? They could probably work out something cheaper than $500. It's not like you live in Borneo -- there's no reason it should be
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https://static.summitracing.com/global/images/instructions/k...
"Contains 50% Nitropropane and 50% Koolinal as blending and cooling agents.Koolinal also resists detonation and preignition."
I couldn't find weather it is 1- or 2-nitropropane. Knowing that 2-nitropropane highly carcinogen it must be 1-NP. I don't think that 2-NP would be
allowed in the US market such a high concentration.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Reboot |
Oooh! Nice find. You'll want the 117 stuff (pure solvent, the 116 is 'thickened', probably with dissolved acrylic.) Shouldn't be too hard to
separate (fractional distillation, perhaps followed by a water wash should give a good enough product for most purposes.)
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ACRIFIX 1S 0116 contains ethylformate, nitroethane, butan-1-ol.
ACRIFIX 1S 0117 contains other than just ethylformate and nitroethane
Komponente CAS-Nummer Gefahrensymbol(e) / R-Sätze Gehalt
Ethylformiat 109-94-4 F, Xn 11-20/22-36/37 30,0 - 60,0 %
Nitroethan 79-24-3 Xn 10-20/22 30,0 - 60,0 %
2-Phenoxyethanol 122-99-6 Xn 22-36 3,0 - 7,0 %
Ethylacetat 141-78-6F, Xi 11-36-66-67 3,0 - 7,0 %
Butan-1-ol 71-36-3 Xn 10-22-37/38-41-67 1,0 - 5,0 %
RS Pro 250ml could be a better choice for UK users.
dichloromethane 30-70%
nitroethane 20-50 %
1-methoxy-2-propanol 5-25 %
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I wonder which make acrifix 117 is an azeotrope. Refer to TDS, I found that acrifix 117 contains less than 1% solid. Does it has hydrogen bonding?
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Looking to buy? As far as I know, that's OK.
Problem is, most folks here, if they had some, would be legally prohibited from selling it to you.
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