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How hot old watch and clock?
My mum has my dads old watch from the late 60's/early 70's, and a older bedside clock. Having read a few posts here, it dawned on me they might be
radioactive, ok not a big deal...
But how hot are items like that, likely to be? Both are up in the atic and not bothering anyone, the clock only has a very faint glow now, but the
watch is pretty good still.
What are the likely sources used?
Sorry for the questions i am just interested.
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Radium dial clocks were quite popular during that era.
Given the half life of 1600 years, they are probably pretty close
to as bright as the day they were made barring a breakdown of
the phosphor.
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Radium DOES destroy the Zinc zulfide phosphors that were typically used with it.
My grandfather's WW I altimeter and cockpit clock are still mildly radioactive, but do not glow visibly at all.
The sealed instruments aren't particularly dangerous, the dust inside them with the Radon daughters potentially is, though. Found out all about this
when I tried to find an instrument shop to fix the altimeter when the bellows quit working.
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Quote: Originally posted by NEMO-Chemistry ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | My mum has my dads old watch from the late 60's/early 70's, and a older bedside clock. Having read a few posts here, it dawned on me they might be
radioactive, ok not a big deal... | That sounds far too late for the use of radium paint. Radium was phased
out in the 50s. Promethium was used for a time after that because it was much safer, but since it has a much shorter half-life, pretty much anything
painted with promethium is long since dead, converted to stable neodymium and samarium.
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Better yet i found a 1980's led watch, a red one lol. reading up on them the batteries died within weeks
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Seems like promethium maybe.
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If you still believe that it may be radioactive. There are many cheap Geiger counters and dosimeter for about 25 us dollars on eBay. I would recommend
getting one of these. They won't be very sensitive, but they will probably tell you if something is radioactive or not.
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