mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Has anyone got a backup of this youtube channel?
Hi guys,
Ok not that long ago there was a youtube channel and I think it was called Explosivepedia, or something like that, I am sure I didn't dream it!
Anyway has anyone perhaps backed up that channel?
Thanks in advance guys ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Cheers
Mos
|
|
Velzee
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 381
Registered: 19-8-2015
Location: New York
Member Is Offline
Mood: Taking it easy
|
|
I just watched Explosipedia's video on trinitrotoluene not too long ago... I wonder what happened. I'll search a bit more.
[Edited on 7/31/2016 by Velzee]
[Edited on 7/31/2016 by Velzee]
Check out the ScienceMadness Wiki: http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Main_Page
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
—Arthur Schopenhauer
"¡Vivá Cristo Rey!"
—Saint José Sánchez del Río
|
|
Dank
Harmless
Posts: 8
Registered: 10-4-2016
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Wet
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Velzee ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I just watched his video on trinitrotoluene not too long ago... I wonder what happened. I'll search a bit more.
[Edited on 7/31/2016 by Velzee] |
Ah! So that's why I couldn't find it. Strange synthesis though, I was under the impression TNT required both fuming nitric acid and oleum to get that
third nitro group on there, but he only used sulfuric acid drain cleaner and a nitrate salt. Clean MP though, and just about on point.
|
|
mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Velzee ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I just watched Explosipedia's video on trinitrotoluene not too long ago... I wonder what happened. I'll search a bit more.
[Edited on 7/31/2016 by Velzee]
[Edited on 7/31/2016 by Velzee] |
I missed that one, but there were a few other interesting ones.
|
|
NedsHead
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 409
Registered: 9-12-2014
Location: South Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
I wonder what happen, YouTube gives me this message when I open their channel "This account has been suspended due to multiple or severe violations of
YouTube's policy on violence." I don't recall there ever being any violence on that channel
Edit: I found a few videos at https://vimeo.com/explosiopedia
[Edited on 31-7-2016 by NedsHead]
|
|
mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Dank ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
Ah! So that's why I couldn't find it. Strange synthesis though, I was under the impression TNT required both fuming nitric acid and oleum to get that
third nitro group on there, but he only used sulfuric acid drain cleaner and a nitrate salt. Clean MP though, and just about on point.
|
Dank your right, by all accounts oleum and fuming nitric acid is required ... but by the magic of tv hey presto
|
|
mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by NedsHead ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I wonder what happen, YouTube gives me this message when I open their channel "This account has been suspended due to multiple or severe violations of
YouTube's policy on violence." I don't recall there ever being any violence on that channel
Edit: I found a few videos at https://vimeo.com/explosiopedia
[Edited on 31-7-2016 by NedsHead] |
Thanks NedsHead! that exactly what I was after ... not sure if there was more on youtube, taking it for granted I never bothered to download it
expecting it to be there when I needed. Not making the same mistake again I have started backing up all the channels of interest while they are
around.
Thanks again you are a champ! ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
mos
|
|
NedsHead
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 409
Registered: 9-12-2014
Location: South Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
You're welcome, I would still like to know why YouTube nuked the channel, if it was due to explosive manufacture and testing then others might suffer
the same fate. does anybody know what happen to Explosiopedia's channel?
|
|
Tdep
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 516
Registered: 31-1-2013
Location: Laser broken since Feb 2020 lol
Member Is Offline
Mood: PhD is done! It isn't good but it's over lol
|
|
Yes, youtube is nuking the EM channels. They've changed their terms of service it seems.
EnergyUnleashed was another great channel that got deleted. The rest of us making any sort of EM videos are all on the verge of being deleted (youtube
removes a video of yours without warning, you get a strike. 3 strikes and your channel gets deleted. Many of us have 2/3 strikes now).
I've put every Ex&F video on private now, because any public video could get reported by youtube at any moment and I'd lose everything. I'll put
up a video on Extract&Ire for those of you who know what that is that will explain it in more detail.
Other chemistry, including drug related stuff seems unaffected. But any near-EM related video is at risk. I lost my video on nitromethane. NileRed
lost his video on making Hexamine from formaldehyde and ammonia. Hopefully this all blows over but for now, things look bad.
|
|
PHILOU Zrealone
International Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 2893
Registered: 20-5-2002
Location: Brussel
Member Is Offline
Mood: Bis-diazo-dinitro-hydroquinonic
|
|
Maybe time to make a SM-OUR-Tube?
TNT should be reachable from Na nitrate salt and 95-98% H2SO4 (drain cleaner)...because it makes nearly anhydrous HNO3 aside with NaHSO4 dehydrator
(scavenge water as NaHSO4.x H2O crystals)...
So even if oleum is not present it will work albeit maybe:
-with lower yields,
-with longer exposure time
-or longer heating time...
Following chembooks and what I had learned at university in organic chem class...Toluen is not supposed to react with HNO3 69% to make o- or
p-nitrotoluen and stil I have tried and it does despite no significant NO2(+) should be present...even after a few seconds exposure, you can notice a
yellow color at the interface.
See my experiment here "Green solution" tread into Energetic Material folder
PH Z (PHILOU Zrealone)
"Physic is all what never works; Chemistry is all what stinks and explodes!"-"Life that deadly disease, sexually transmitted."(W.Allen)
|
|
NedsHead
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 409
Registered: 9-12-2014
Location: South Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Thanks Tom, something tells me this probably won't blow over, maybe it's time for sciencemadness to create MadTube so we have somewhere safe to upload
and share our content, at the very least it might be a good idea to start uploading to a different medium, if a few high profile channels like
yourself begin others will follow
Edit: PHILOU Zrealone beat me to it
[Edited on 1-8-2016 by NedsHead]
|
|
Tdep
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 516
Registered: 31-1-2013
Location: Laser broken since Feb 2020 lol
Member Is Offline
Mood: PhD is done! It isn't good but it's over lol
|
|
There are always backup sites yes, Vimeo tends to be the next choice, I don't know what their terms of service are like but Explosiopedia has been
sitting up there for 2 years so that's a good sign at least.
But honestly, you can't really replace Youtube. From a creator's point of view, you do want your video to be watched. From my experience of youtube,
there's always a great community supporting me and it's fun to make videos that entertain those people. Sure, I could just do an experiment and write
it up on sciencemad, but making a youtube video is so much more than that and while it's not for everyone i've loved it.
I can't really explain it well, but basically, it's very hard to replace youtube. What does that mean for the future of EM videos?? Guess we'll have
to find out.
I'm hoping it will blow over because the changes to the youtube community guidelines are affecting many channels across all of youtube. Some of the
changes to the guidelines involve the addition of something like 'you cannot say something offensive about another person' which means that a lottt of
vlog channels are under threat and have started to see strikes thanks to this very vague sentence. People are kicking up a fuss and the site usually
does cave if enough tide is turned against it. Perhaps the whole strike system will get changed.
I can only hope, what else can I do? The strike (1 or maybe 2 strikes, I can't tell) will wear off in 3 months.
|
|
j_sum1
Administrator
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 6256
Registered: 4-10-2014
Location: Unmoved
Member Is Offline
Mood: Organised
|
|
This is a bit concerning -- and I am not even an EM enthusiast.
I have some favourite videos on phosphorous production from a user who used to frequent here. He is still active on YT making and testing fireworks.
If his account goes under, a very valuable resource will disappear.
I am downloading as we speak.
|
|
greenlight
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 733
Registered: 3-11-2014
Member Is Offline
Mood: Energetic
|
|
This is terrible, they took explosipedia and energy unleashed as well. Total BS. They both had good videos, I was watching the channels a few weeks
ago.
I am pretty sure I have seen a video on youtube before showing how to manufacture methamphetamine but explosives arent allowed.
It seems we are not allowed to be trusted with any information on dangerous things online at all anymore.
Be good, otherwise be good at it
|
|
mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Tdep ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | Yes, youtube is nuking the EM channels. They've changed their terms of service it seems.
EnergyUnleashed was another great channel that got deleted. The rest of us making any sort of EM videos are all on the verge of being deleted (youtube
removes a video of yours without warning, you get a strike. 3 strikes and your channel gets deleted. Many of us have 2/3 strikes now).
I've put every Ex&F video on private now, because any public video could get reported by youtube at any moment and I'd lose everything. I'll put
up a video on Extract&Ire for those of you who know what that is that will explain it in more detail.
Other chemistry, including drug related stuff seems unaffected. But any near-EM related video is at risk. I lost my video on nitromethane. NileRed
lost his video on making Hexamine from formaldehyde and ammonia. Hopefully this all blows over but for now, things look bad. |
Firstly love your work ![:)](./images/smilies/smile.gif)
Secondly are you going to put your vids up on vimeo or something similar as its a waste if they just sit there in private.
We organise someone to host a FTP and I would be happy to upload all the vids I collected, I think I got some from energy unleashed before they were
taken down.
|
|
mos
Harmless
Posts: 6
Registered: 27-6-2016
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Another fun channel with boom boom is Arma-Fratrum.
I dont think his grasp on chemistry, or safety is up to scratch but entertaining.
If anyone can suggest any good channels to back up please list them as I have tried to find them all but you guys may have some jems.
|
|
Tdep
National Hazard
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 516
Registered: 31-1-2013
Location: Laser broken since Feb 2020 lol
Member Is Offline
Mood: PhD is done! It isn't good but it's over lol
|
|
There was quiet for about two weeks, and I thought the slow march of Youtube changes had stopped. This week marks even worse signs.
Watch this video Youtube is Shutting Down my Channel and i'm not sure what to do
Youtube are removing monetisation for videos not deemed 'advertiser friendly'. Sure, this isn't deleting videos but it's still a large step and as is
explained in the video, channels rely on this income and it means people will immediately start to conform with exactly what youtube wants you to see.
But does this extend to amateur chemistry? This time: yes.
The BackYardScientist has just has monetisation removed, not for his videos involving playing with molten aluminium, but for the hydrolysis of aspirin. Now this is concerning.
Sure, Chemplayer doesn't rely on monetisation. But if you're NurdRage and you can either make a hardcore chemistry video and not be able to make money
off it, or a non-challenging popsci video where Youtube doesn't strip your income, which one would you do?
[Edited on 2-9-2016 by Tdep]
[Edited on 2-9-2016 by Tdep]
|
|
Velzee
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 381
Registered: 19-8-2015
Location: New York
Member Is Offline
Mood: Taking it easy
|
|
Quote: Originally posted by Tdep ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
...
But does this extend to amateur chemistry? This time: yes.
The BackYardScientist has just has monetisation removed, not for his videos involving playing with molten aluminium, but for the hydrolysis of aspirin. Now this is concerning.
Sure, Chemplayer doesn't rely on monetisation. But if you're NurdRage and you can either make a hardcore chemistry video and not be able to make money
off it, or a non-challenging popsci video where Youtube doesn't strip your income, which one would you do?
|
Now, that is quite concerning. At first, I saw the YouTube "giants" who were complaining how that they thought YouTube was
censoring them, but in reality, YouTube believes that advertisers wouldn't like to stand by the giants that tend to swear profusely and act
inappropriately(making sexually related jokes and such), and hence aren't being professional, so I rolled my eyes at the Giants' complaining. But
this; most chemistry channels are very professional, heck look at MrHomeScientist, NileRed, heck even you don't overly use profanity or the like.
I couldn't care less about the Giants who complain about how they wish to swear or act immature for their channel(after all, it is a
professional atmosphere), but YouTube is starting to look a lot worse by burning all of the books(or videos in this case),
and keeping knowledge away from people. Either that, or the advertisers really don't care for scientific knowledge. Either way, it wouldn't surprise
me.
[Edited on 9/2/2016 by Velzee]
[Edited on 9/2/2016 by Velzee]
Check out the ScienceMadness Wiki: http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Main_Page
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
—Arthur Schopenhauer
"¡Vivá Cristo Rey!"
—Saint José Sánchez del Río
|
|
NedsHead
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 409
Registered: 9-12-2014
Location: South Australia
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
YouTube's gone full retard,
one of my other favourite channels, the forgotten weapons channel, had monetisation removed for displaying the German NAZI flag when reviewing
historical weapons at the Cody Wyoming Firearm Museum, it's been a tradition of Ian's to display the national flag of the firearm he's reviewing, but
that all changed when he reviewed a German weapon manufactured between 1933 and 1945 Germany, he was left with no other option but to censor the flag
, here is his response to the controversy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of8okKZg7UA
|
|
chemplayer...
Hazard to Others
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif) ![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 191
Registered: 25-4-2016
Location: Away from the secret island
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Advertising revenue from online sources has been dropping dramatically (per click). At this point YT constitutes around 10% of Google's entire ad
revenue, and given the platform's ability to very effectively profile and target viewers for adverts, it's probably strategically Google's best future
source of growth for this revenue. I'd bet that they've made a strategic decision to focus on developing YT as a 'premium advertising channel'.
Google therefore need to do anything they can to make YT an absolutely 'solid' platform for advertisers so that they can charge more for this future
enhanced and controlled advertising vehicle. Part of that means that they have to absolutely guarantee advertisers that their advert or product can't
be associated with anything that could conceivably possibly have any negative connotations whatsoever. And corporate marketing and comms folks are
generally pretty controlling, paranoid and obsessive creatures. If you can't give them a 100% cast iron guarantee that their advert won't be shown
within a minute of a nazi flag then they ain't going to pay you the bucks.
What YT are effectively saying is that "our model is changing and we will now be focusing on making money out of the richer more paranoid corporate
types; so unless your material appeals to them, you also won't be able to make money".
We're not happy with some of the censorship (strikes / age blocking) that IS clearly going on at the moment, but we think there's a bit of hyperbole
surrounding this particular development which to us seems more like an inevitable product of economics and advertising commercials unfortunately.
People should be more worried about the direct censorship and the sort of thing happening to 'Explosions and Fire' for instance.
|
|
DieForelle
Hazard to Self
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 61
Registered: 2-2-2012
Location: East Coast
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Wow, I knew YT was "demonetizing" controversial videos, but now the wholesale removal of videos that merely present physical realities of the
universe? WTF?
"YouTube's gone full retard,"
Indeed.
|
|
The jersey rebel
Hazard to Self
![*](images/xpblue/star.gif)
Posts: 76
Registered: 27-5-2016
Location: Jersey Fresh
Member Is Offline
Mood: dealing with excessive change
|
|
I thankfully wrote down every single chemistry preparation on energy unleashed's channel except the thermobaric device video (was in Bucharest) so at
least I have that. Who knows? Once I launch my website, maybe I should have a YT prep section to maybe rise the videos from the dead in some way. But
yes YouTube has done a good job in screwing itself over, but hey when you make 4 billion dollars without generating any profit you want to turn it
into a second buzzfeed to capitalize on the tabloid scene. Sad.
|
|