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[*] posted on 16-2-2016 at 13:25
Sulfuric acid in NZ


Hey this is kind of a short question but im looking for a easy over the counter supply of sulfuric acid in new zealand?
I have checked bunnings and all there drain cleaner is just sodium hydroxide, I have checked all the local plumbing stores but they seem to be more orientated towards selling me a bath or shower, i have checked mitre 10 which again just sells diggers stuff which is usually just sodium hydroxide and paint strippers and stuff.
I have run out of places to look and have resorted to trying to make it from 28% HCl, 35% H2O2 and sodium metabisulfite. The other option is to buy 98% sulfuric acid from chemical supply house except that means i have to deal with the cops every time i wanna buy sulfuric acid and given that im going to be using sulfuric acid to prepare nitric acid, conc HCl and also phosphoric acid as well as any other uses i need it for in the future i just don't think its a good idea dealing with the cops every time I wanna get this stuff.
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[*] posted on 16-2-2016 at 14:01


Boil the Bat!

http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Boiling_the_Bat
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=19117
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=6911
http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=65092#pid435899





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[*] posted on 16-2-2016 at 23:19


Have you looked for "low fume" pool acid? Normally is 35% sulphuric. Still needs to be boiled down but at least available in 5 to 20 litre range.



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[*] posted on 17-2-2016 at 00:40


starman, I am not aware of any such product in NZ.



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[*] posted on 17-2-2016 at 06:46


35% sounds analogous to HCl. Are you sure it is sulfuric acid?



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[*] posted on 17-2-2016 at 07:01


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Have you looked for "low fume" pool acid? Normally is 35% sulphuric.

The low fume type seems to be HCl and "no fume" to contain ~34% sulphuric . . .

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[*] posted on 18-2-2016 at 21:04


OK so "no" not low and 34 not 35% jeez nitpick was helping out from memory. You really think I don't know the difference between hydrochloric and sulphuric?



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[*] posted on 19-2-2016 at 04:37


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You really think I don't know the difference between hydrochloric and sulphuric?

Well, not without opening the bottle or reading the label! :D

Oh, wait . . . I mean weight . . .

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[*] posted on 27-2-2016 at 07:22


NZ$100 for a litre of sulphuric acid at Micowakefield plumbing supply's.
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[*] posted on 27-2-2016 at 19:02


Quote: Originally posted by eesakiwi  
NZ$100 for a litre of sulphuric acid at Micowakefield plumbing supply's.
Ouch!
It would be good to do better than that!




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[*] posted on 29-2-2016 at 22:43


http://www.ecochem.co.nz/order-chemicals/chemicals/sulphuric...
$150 (including shipping) for 10L conc sulfuric acid.
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[*] posted on 1-3-2016 at 18:45


where in NZ are you. I may be able to help. I'm swimming in it.
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smile.gif posted on 11-6-2016 at 05:28


I remember seeing that you can produce sulphuric acid from the electrolysis of pure elemental sulfur in a solution of hydrobromic acid, i have no idea where you could get a cheap source of hydrobromic acid however... i'll have a look into it.

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smile.gif posted on 11-6-2016 at 05:57


I found a source that is 50-60% sulphuric acid, comes as a concentrated drain cleaner. It's called speed drain cleaner.

http://megadistributors.co.nz/Speed.php

this was confirmed by the Material safty data sheet for the product

http://megadistributors.co.nz/2013-MSDS/Speed-MSDS_v1.01.pdf

hope that helps man



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