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I found some water tight PVC end caps that have 6 screws and a rubber O ring, I do some reloading and they'll be perfect for wet tumbling dirty brass.
This is 100mm PVC with an outside diameter of 150mm so I can also use 150mm PVC with end caps without having to change pulleys.
I also picked up a few packets of ceramic pie weights today from a homemaker shop to try in the mill
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Nice work NedsHead !
Being able to use 100mm and 150mm barrels without changing anything is really smart.
Looks like a fairly large rig, judging by the familiar landmark ![;)](./images/smilies/wink.gif)
I guess you could use shorter lengths of Barrel too, so doubly smart !
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Thanks, I thought the aga scale was necessary I have 2 more 100mm end caps for
that exact reason, to build a smaller drum for milling black powder and what not.
I'm really happy with how this project turned out
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For ball mill media, try ball bearings, roller bearings or used Tungsten carbide machine cutting tips. Like the sort thats used on Lathes and Milling
machines.
Roller bearings are a good size and shape. You will find them in machine shop scrapmetal bins, ask first.
Boat builders workshops are great because of the large size bearings they use.
The Tungsten tips are small and very hard, good for grinding stuff apart and finely.
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I'm fairly certain tungsten carbide tips would also eat the barrel material. Early failure could be a bad thing. At the very least you would end up
with plastic in you milled product. A rounded, or at least not sharply angular, media would be better in my opinion. Unless you had a liner in
there.
One of my rock tumblers has a rubber liner, that protects the plastic from the much harder and often sharply irregular shape rocks come in. Just a
thought. I have found steel slingshot ammo pretty affordable and available. Good for milling lump charcoal. Not so effective on other things I
tried. Like pollucite.
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Are mills ever used in chemistry to grind things? I recently saw a series of messages on a Usenet archive talking about grinding with blenders, but
figured mills would be better...
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I used my ball mill back when I was involved in high powered rocketry and pyrotechnics. Since I've been more involved in chemistry, I haven't really
used it much. However, for making small magnesium chips for the elemental potassium isolation I used my Bridgeport milling machine and a catch box
filled with argon, and made a bunch of small passes. Ended up with a huge amount of nearly oxide free pure magnesium chips which worked perfectly for
isolating potassium.
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Nedshead, are the ceramic pie weights aluminum oxide?
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My ball mill got built because NedsHead posted a photo.
I'd wanted to build one for ages, simply to grind charcoal and test to see if that made it 'activated' to any extent.
Still not ground any charcoal ![:(](./images/smilies/sad.gif)
Work, beer, Other Projects, beer, Life and beer all seem to get in the way of actually accomplishing anything.
[Edited on 24-10-2015 by aga]
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Today I was looking around a thrift store for a large aluminum pot, and I noticed that they had several lightweight, folding music stands for sale.
They fit my clamps and are sturdy and tall.
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That is a beautifully made roller, Mr. Head. I wonder though how fast that thing is going to spin with the motor and pulley assembly you have?
Also, I never knew what a "Pie Weight" was until you posted this - now I can ball mill and also make wonderful pastries...
BTW: This is my first post on the forum, so Hello to you all! - I have been a Mad Scientist for years, and have been told that I may actually be quite
mad.... ![:P](./images/smilies/tongue.gif)
[Edited on 4-11-2015 by SteampunkScientist]
Some say Science and Magick don't mix. I mix them all the time and the explosions are legendary!
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Something simple today, sauce bottle to wash bottle.
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Quote: Originally posted by Oscilllator ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | You've probably heard of it but that method of casting is known to work very well with aluminium (I myself have used it with great success) so I don't
see any reason why it wouldn't work using lead. |
The above referring to burying polystyrene in sand for an impromptu investment mold.
I predict that it would work less well with lead which is more than four times denser than aluminum. But sand casting is a venerable process, and some
sand mold preparation to get firmer support it will work. Look up sand mold casting for details.
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I've had luck with
- Dimmer switch instead of a variac - They work fine for most purposes, especially heating. I've found that they often work well with electric motors
too.
- Electric drill instead of a mechanical stirrer - While not necessarily the recommended setup for working with flammable or corrosive mixtures, who
doesn't have an electric drill?
- Immersion heaters - You'll want to get fairly high wattage ones if you go this route, but they can be used with hotplateless magnetic stirrers with
an oil or water bath.
- Mason jars with plastic lids - They seem to be fairly airtight and work well for storing dry inorganic compounds and some solvents.
- 1/4 inch copper tubing - It's useful for connecting destructive distillation crucibles to regular glass condensers.
- Pyrex storage containers - While I don't like to compromise on glass, they work well as crystallization dishes.
- Aluminum pot - I use one to hold most of my heating and cooling baths.
- Music stands - I use them as lab stands. I think it would be easier to use regular retort stands, but they work ok.
- Cheap Walmart hotplate - At 1000 watts of power, it's strong enough for most purposes.
One thing I haven't found a good substitute for is lab clamps.
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Arkoma uses wood for lab clamps, which seems a reasonable substitute as it can be cut and formatted easily and is cheap. Some good ideas there,
though!
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I don't like using wood for lab equipment since it is hard to clean and burns. Also, it is usually impractical to make adjustments to it to
accommodate different types of apparatus.
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Quote: Originally posted by JJay ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) | I don't like using wood for lab equipment since it is hard to clean and burns. Also, it is usually impractical to make adjustments to it to
accommodate different types of apparatus. |
Indeed, I suppose. I use ring stands, but only own two stands, two rings (3"), one screw adapter with nothing to screw into it, and a single-burette
clamp.
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Personally I don't mind using wood equipment, although I always try to varnish them to protect the wood. I find this one is very useful for holding
funnels, and plan to varnish it in the next few weeks:
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Quote: Originally posted by aga ![](images/xpblue/lastpost.gif) |
Work, beer, Other Projects, beer, Life and beer all seem to get in the way of actually
accomplishing anything.
[Edited on 24-10-2015 by aga] |
Amen brother.
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I would think that it should be possible to find suitable clamps and stands at the hardware store, but so far I haven't found any reasonable
substitutes just sitting on the shelves.
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Traditional lab stands have a rod diameter of 3/8" of 9.525mm. It would be fairly simple to pick up some at the hardware and drill into an old 5-10lb
barbell weight to mount it along with a liberal amount of epoxy of some sort.
I notice on eBay that the "boss head" clamp holders are dirt cheap from China (~$2.20ea.w/ship.), whereas clamps usually run for ~$8.50ea.w/ship.
I have seen these metal clamps coated with a plastic sleeve of some sort and it resembles many lab clamps sold on the internet, but I have seen these
for sale in places like Harbor Freight and Northern Tool for only $1. Perhaps with as simple modification of removing the plastic sleeve and instead
use a heat resistant fabric of some sort. My tack welding skills are not the best, especially for small objects, but I'm sure it would be possible to
attach a short length of 3/8" rod to the clamp in order to attach it to the boss head clamp holder.
Then, you have everything you need for a stand for nothing compared to what people are charging on the internet.
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Those Chinese boss head clamps you pictured are awful, they're poor aluminium castings and the inside threads are the worst, my distillation kit came
with 2, the threads are drilled and taped crooked and a sloppy fit, the aluminium is so soft when you clamp down it strips out the thread, you really
do get what you pay for with these cheap Chinese clamps
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Coming soon...
A stovetop espresso maker converted into a gas-solid reaction vessel to produce a reagent that is not easy to get hold of around here.
I'll leave you guessing. Just ordered a part I need on eBay and so I guess it will be a month before my idea comes to fruition.
Side-note
I have Chinese clamps that look similar to the one pictured. But they are not Al, cost slightly more than what you quoted, and thus far have been
reasonable.
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Very interesting j_sum1... I haven't got a clue what you could be making, I do love my stove top espresso first thing in the morning though
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