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Poll: best acid/mixtures to readily dissolve organics?
HCL -- 0 (0%)
H2SO4 --- 1 (7.14%)
HNO3 -- 0 (0%)
HCL+H2O2 --- 2 (14.29%)
HN03+HCL --- 2 (14.29%)
Fluorosulfuric acid (HSO3 --- 3 (21.43%)
Chromic (H2CrO4) --- 4 (28.57%)
Perchloric (HCLO4) --- 1 (7.14%)
Concentrated Phosphoric Acid -- 0 (0%)
Concentrated Acetic --- 1 (7.14%)

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 10:52
best acid/mixtures to readily dissolve organics?


I just had an idea of experimentation to determine what chemical is the strongest when it comes to dissolving organics materials, until I realize that purchasing all the chemicals needed might be quite expensive, not to mention the chemical hazards they represent. Instead, based on the good reputation of SM forum, I ' m turning to you, forumers, with this pool, to get your opinions, preferably based on a bit of your own experimentation ;)

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 10:55


Strange first post, isn't it? Maybe you want to get rid of somebody's dead body, why should anybody give you instructions?
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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 10:58


Not really an opinion is it? Then why a poll?
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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 10:58


Were are you getting the bones and flesh?!



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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 11:00


that wouldn't be a practical neither a discreet way, however rest assured , i'm just curious, I just want to see the corrosion strenght of a couple of acids on organics
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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 11:01


Quote: Originally posted by SimpleChemist-238  
Were are you getting the bones and flesh?!

pigs/ chicken feet with bones

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 11:02


Forget mad science. This is closer to psychotic science. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ncwzVmE5IM

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 11:07


sorry I edited my initial post, to a considerably watered down version, an less focused on "living things etc" . Already tested some of these acids on metals and nitrics + hydrochlorics worked fine.

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 11:17


Sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide is a little better than with HCl (aq).
Is the body still alive, or have you finished step one?:P




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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 12:02


Sulfuric acid with hydrogen peroxide is the best.
Chromic acid would be about second best but is quite toxic.
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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 14:13


Quote: Originally posted by SimpleChemist-238  
Were are you getting the bones and flesh?!


I uhhh , know a guy. Sort of owes this fella a favor.

Sulfuric Acid / (STP) 30% Hydrogen Peroxide.




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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 14:16


H2SO4+KMnO4!!!
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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 16:12


Quote: Originally posted by papaya  
H2SO4+KMnO4!!!


If you wanted to burn / blow it sky high I suppose.
Either way... Out of sight, out of mind.

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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 16:38


NaOH will leave nothing behind except the enamel from their teeth. I know this because a veteran had to fish out 2 sets of enamel after a pair of boys fell in the caustic tank at work moons ago.
But since that isn't an acid I pick H2SO4




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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 18:24


I agree with papya, Sulfuric acid and potassium permanganate will take care of the body...



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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 18:44




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Don't worry, it will be fine,



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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 19:00


Yes yes yes, BASE for the flesh, not acids. Without even mentioning NaOH or Ca(OH)2, boiling sodium carbonate solution will easily remove the flesh from bones, it's used in preparing skeleton specimens for labs. The bones, once freed from their meaty prison, can be burned, crushed, and disposed of on their own, or one can treat them with sulfuric acid to make some white phosphorus!



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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 19:02


!!! I did not know you can make elemental P from crushed up bones and H2SO4.



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[*] posted on 11-2-2015 at 19:38


Quote: Originally posted by SimpleChemist-238  
!!! I did not know you can make elemental P from crushed up bones and H2SO4.


Clearly you've never visited this site's biggest thread, then(preparation of elemental phosphorus). Bone ash is largely calcium phosphate, which when acidified with conc. H2SO4 yields phosphoric acid. If carbon is added to the phosphoric acid and the mixture is heated to white heat, gaseous phosphorus boils out. That's a simplified way of putting it, anyway.




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[*] posted on 12-2-2015 at 04:24


Thanks, I will read the thread!



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[*] posted on 12-2-2015 at 05:03


Damn, with Zombie on this one :(
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[*] posted on 12-2-2015 at 06:57


i read that the old source of phosphorus was from the bones of dead creatures,
(may still be?).
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[*] posted on 12-2-2015 at 08:41


N2O5 + SO3 should be great.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2015 at 08:56


What about Cl2O7? It will certainly destroy any organics it comes into contact with. FClO3 would also be an interesting choice, as would O2F2.



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