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mad.gif posted on 7-7-2014 at 13:07
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I am shedding tears, because this is hilarious, and at the same time this is extremely depressing.

These "whole food advocates" are making the argument that ascorbate does not constitute vitamin C. Instead, it's a complex of tyrosine, copper, bioflavinoids, and "substances known and unknown," so you need to get your vitamin C from "whole foods." These substances have ZERO vitamin C activity. Here are some links promoting this theory.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vitaminc.htm

http://www.thesynergycompany.com/v/articles_vitc.html

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/vitaminc/ascorbic-acid-is-not...

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beware-of-ascorbic-ac...

http://www.doctoryourself.com/synthetic.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/040147_vitamin_c_ascorbic_acid_sy...

http://www.realvitaminc.com/ascorbic-acid.html



This is even more ridiculous - it states that "fake" ascorbic acid was made by adding hydrochloric acid to corn syrup! Don't forget the crazy anti-GMO nutting going on.

Thankfully, this document explains how all of this complete bunk. Granted, they do advocate megadoses of vitamin C to cure heart disease, but at least they have the basic science down.

And let's ask Oregon State what they think.

One of the things I keep on reading is that Albert Szent-Györgyi determined that ascorbic acid alone isn't vitamin C. This is obviously wrong, but does anyone know where he's being quoted (quote-mined, I presume?)

[Edited on 7.7.2014 by Brain&Force]

[Edited on 8.7.2014 by Brain&Force]




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[*] posted on 9-7-2014 at 19:16


I can't see how someone would actually believe this crap. The whole food thing is just a ripoff, you can buy natural milk of magnesia at a whole food store or buy it at a pharmacy, they are both composed of magnesium hydroxide but one is 5-10 dollars more expensive.
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[*] posted on 10-7-2014 at 02:22


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I can't see how someone would actually believe this crap.

Me neither, anyone can see they can't tell their Fab Four from their Pink Floyd . . . ?


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At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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[*] posted on 10-7-2014 at 13:57


That is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. I don't know whether I should laugh or cry, because there are some people who actually believe this crap.



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[*] posted on 10-7-2014 at 22:54


The people who believe this should be willing to prove it by going on a long voyage while only bringing 'whole foods' known to be low in ascorbic acid, and see how they go at avoiding scurvy.



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[*] posted on 11-7-2014 at 03:04


Freedom of speech makes the spread of misinformation rampant when the general populus can't tell the difference between a good reference and a tabloid magazine.

And the problem with that is that these people vote.




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[*] posted on 11-7-2014 at 06:05


I love my brother-in-law to death, and he's SMART (he worked on the robotics line at an Intel chip plant)--but for some reason he buys into junk ass science though. We agree to not talk about idiots like Royal Lee.........



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[*] posted on 12-7-2014 at 12:11


Careful.

We don't want a Wholey war starting ..

Remember the last Jiffihad over postal worker wages.

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[*] posted on 13-7-2014 at 01:04


The really deeply insane bit of this is that scurvy was a well-known, serious problem when the only food around was basicly "whole-food".
So the one thing we know can not cure scurvy is "whole-food".

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[*] posted on 13-7-2014 at 11:57


Of course it is stupid and idio-C, but I wouldn't spend to much attention nor effort in this kind of things.

I did some bodybuilding (years ago), and the only person who could finally tell me a single reasonable word about the whole subject of supplements was a guy studying to become doctor-researcher is his fifth year.

I tried to discuss the subject with a lot of definitely not stupid people (what Arkoma says as well), but ones they are obsessed (and you have to be a bit before you start writing about the subject without a proper education) they are not reasonable anymore and they will just not believe you anymore.

There is so much shit on the internet you cannot fight it, or at least not persuade them in getting a sensible idea.

The only thing I can say is; eat healthy and take some A-Z vitamine/mineral tablets if you want to be sure.

And yes; the ∞ stupidity is definitely in place!

[Edited on 13-7-2014 by Tsjerk]
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