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Quote: Originally posted by MagicJigPipe  | | I'm simply saying that the severity of gun laws in a state or city seems to be indicative of it's practice of increasing regulations across the board.
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What about Texas? All the guns you want, but Erlenmeyer flasks? Never!
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Yes, as the Texas example shows, this kind of idiocy can show up just about anywhere.
The California Prop 65 warnings are absurd. Some chemical manufacturers don't want to bother getting approval for any of their products, even
non-hazardous ones. Thus a 500 gram bottle of Spectrum Sodium Chloride, USP, says on the side: "This product contains a chemical known in the State
of California to cause cancer".
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Eventually Cheerios will have a Proposition 65 sticker - oh, wait, that almost happened.
I hate it when people say, "If you can't pronounce it, don't eat it or use it!" The thing about us amateur chemists is that we can pronounce dimethylpolysiloxane and
selenocysteine without a problem.  The chemophobes can't even pronounce
"linoleic acid," (and are probably deathly afraid of it), yet they eat it every. Single. DAY.
[Edited on 28.6.2014 by Brain&Force]
At the end of the day, simulating atoms doesn't beat working with the real things...
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A very good point, and I hate that too, although by the end of her
little article she does suggest actually reading and researching about the ingredients in the products, which I find to be much more reasonable than
her original claims…
I usually do research unfamiliar ingredients, but more out of curiosity rather than anything else. I think that doing that is actually a really good
thing that everybody should do. Not only does it inform you about what it is that you're consuming, but it can be potentially very interesting and
actually lessen chemophobia in the long run, as many of the "hard to pronounce" chemicals are actually found to be completely benign upon researching
them. Eventually if everyone's doing that, then suspicion regarding artificial ingredients becomes much more measured and reasonable.
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Hmm... I can pronounce dimethylmercury!
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Apparently that may become a quite realistic problem in the food of school kids and inmates soon:
http://discovermagazine.com/2014/julyaug/50-dogfish-mercury
Hm, dogfish is cheap… also 30% higher in mercury than tuna, already infamous for its high mercury levels. Let's put it in school lunches! That'll
help balance the budget. They'll be fine if they only eat it once a month or so. You know, they're just the generation that's supposed to fix
everything that's wrong with the world now. Gotta get 'em off to a healthy start!
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As a NATIVE Californian, and having spent 30 of my 50 years there, I can weigh in on the OP's original question. The problem, as I see it, is the
State Constitution can be AMENDED by 51% of those that BOTHER to vote. Hence we are saddled with a bunch of conflicted bullshit like Prop 65 and Prop
8. The "cancer" warnings and gay marriage ban respectively. But yet CA canna bring itself to legalize something as innocuous as cannabis. "Hippies"
my ass. CA is at the mercy (in my biased opinion) of a bunch of "reactionary tree-huggers". Yes that is an oxymoron, but that's how my home is.
*sigh* Why I am in NEVADA at the moment LMFAO.
Oh, and we just LOVE to build and FILL penitentiaries in Cali...............ask me how I know.
Edit--BTW, most of Cali is rather RURAL. Los Angeles FUKKIN TERRIFIES me. I've spent three whole days there in my whole life. Don't "tar" the whole
state with the LA brush. My home is at the "gateway" to Joshua Tree National Park. I won't even go to Palm Springs without kicking and screaming,
and it's actually pretty small. (my home zip code is 92277)
[Edited on 6-28-2014 by arkoma]
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I think i can win this non existent contest to have the stupidest cancer label ...
On bottled oxygen, apparently a bottle of oxygen you can buy at home depot causes cancer who knew?
Honestly the only way you can tell by a glance if something could potentially cause cancer is some other country declares it a carcinogen. California
cancer labels get thrown around so much they lose all effectiveness.
And also for California don get me started on there pollution laws, apparently none of the small engine power equipment we enjoy in the rest of the
world can be sold in California. Which apparently means it has to be printed on absolutely everything.
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Is that really just oxygen, with nothing else in it?
If so, we need to hurry and warn the California state legislature that they're all breathing in a ton of carcinogenic gas every day! (And not even
from the smog!)
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I am not sure if it is 100% pure as it is supposed to be used for small scale soldering.
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*OFF TOPIC* sort of:
I just love the hypocrisy of the "Good cheese comes from happy cows" ad campaign. Having traveled extensively in my fair state, I have not once laid
eyes on a dairy that was anything other than a feedlot.
See how they frolic in a mountain meadow? LMFAO Feedlots are environmental disasters.
I have a friend from Humboldt county who is a logger--the tr**hu**ers shut him down--yet they just LOVE redwood.
| Quote: | | Though Gore has long been against logging the old-growth forests of the Pacific Northwest, shortly after being sworn in as Vice President, he added a
verandah made of old-growth redwood and Douglas fir to the Vice President's mansion, according to MIT Tech edition. |
But try to buy MEK or Xylene........
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| Quote: Originally posted by Boron Trioxide | I think i can win this non existent contest to have the stupidest cancer label ...
On bottled oxygen, apparently a bottle of oxygen you can buy at home depot causes cancer who knew?
Honestly the only way you can tell by a glance if something could potentially cause cancer is some other country declares it a carcinogen. California
cancer labels get thrown around so much they lose all effectiveness.
And also for California don get me started on there pollution laws, apparently none of the small engine power equipment we enjoy in the rest of the
world can be sold in California. Which apparently means it has to be printed on absolutely everything.
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Not necessarily. Oxygen is killing you!
Free oxygen radicals (which are formed more often then you'd like to think) have been know to cause cancer quite effectively.
Now I doubt any can exist in a O2 cylinder. I imagine the way such substances are categorized as "potentially carcinogenic" relies on
different methods, of which are irrelevant to many of the products that stamped with the label: "Potentially carcinogenic".
For example, They (whoever "they" is) probably thought, "Oxygen radicals can cause cancer. This is a oxygen cylinder, so it can cause cancer." Even
though under the circumstances of compressed O2, in a steel container, the likelihood of such is almost certainly negligible.
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".........byproducts of the combustion of the contents..........."
Read the label, guys.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Zyklon-A | | For example, They (whoever "they" is) probably thought, "Oxygen radicals can cause cancer. This is a oxygen cylinder, so it can cause cancer."
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Probably these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ6Ex8E1q50
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Hold on, we talking about the state of So Cal, or N. Cali. Even Mendocino has been ruined somewhat, but way up on Oregon coast, Manzanita is still a
nice place to get to. I'll never forgete the bizarre town of Willits N. Cali, a meth town.
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^^^LOL, ever been to Twentynine Palms? It's like there is meth in the city water supply
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| Quote: Originally posted by pyrochemix | | I want your opinion, why is california so quick to catch on to the political economical propaganda of global warming, environmental pollution and
everything thing else. s\ |
In my opinion, there are several factors working simultaneously here. The bastion of liberalism in the state with the largest GDP (Cali), is
Berkeley. Most of Hollywood is leftist, (except N. Hollywood, sorry!), democratic, and with a very large Jewish population (just like New Jersey
+Miami/Boca Florida), lol., I'd say ~87% or more. Having so much Democratic representation makes Cali, a sugardaddy for M $street purses. California
has a tradition of starting laws, trends, etc. All one must do to have an initiative reviewed for passage, is have like 1000 signatures. So I think
there MOST LIKELY is a synergy of factors with a multiple effect, and this synergy accounts for the amplification of your observations. Just the
exponential effect. I still can not believe with a straight face that Isreali / US relations hit a new low. We're not fooling NO-ONE. The US+Isreal
are joined at hip. The US has six humongous underground, permanent military bases constructed in Isreal. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&a...
Humus's & Olive-spread had tunnels no more. Sure, I actually have a very close Palestinian friend to our family, and she is the most decent
person you will ever meet....but STILL, my dark side wants to shoot all those tunelling roaches with a big propane blow torch. OFF TOPIC NOE: I know
it sounds sick, and I almost always want to save even an insect if possible. But I do have a dark desire that if I were to stumble upon like a 500Lb
mound of tiny red ants/termites, I would SO love to torch them all with the big torch, and hear all the popping. Guess I'd have to look out for
formic acid vapor.
Yours truly
So why I once called Anders Hoveland? The attempt is so nerdy (I do like nerds as I am one) that the laughter is shared at most between several very
close only friends. SO, Very close, just short of incestual intimacy. And one's knowledge of some name or topic does not mean that person therefore
has some very cool and connected intellectual attributes.
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So I finally got around to reading the label...
It says, "This container, and byproducts of the combustion of it's contents contain chemicals know to [...]"
So you're only half right.
Read the label guy.
[Edited on 8-8-2014 by Zyklon-A]
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Not to mention they would be terrified of
2-Amino-4-methylpentanoic acid and would probably consider it poison, yet they contain large amounts of it and need it for nearly every protein to
function.
Basket of kittens for you ........BOOM
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