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froot
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It appears the spam problem has been solved. Urged by curiosity I must ask, what happened?
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Zyklon-A
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I have been meaning to ask this too. I haven't seen any spam here for a while. Perhaps they realized that none of the ~10 people who might see their
add, (before it's deleted) don't need a new kitchen.
And if they did need a new one, they wouldn't buy from them.
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thesmug
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The sites they advertise aren't actually good either. All the reviews say things like "Never buy from them. They do a terrible job" or "Worst kitchen
fitters in the UK." Maybe they shouldn't have that on the main page for all to see! That's also probably why they spam like that.
Good eyes
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elementcollector1
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*Sigh*
I guess it was just a slow month, huh?
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Etaoin Shrdlu
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Can we just kick anyone whose first post contains the words "kitchens" or "shoes" along with a link into a group that can't post? Moderators could
free the one-in-a-million person who just wanted to talk about vulcanized rubber.
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Texium
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Quote: Originally posted by Etaoin Shrdlu  | | Can we just kick anyone whose first post contains the words "kitchens" or "shoes" along with a link into a group that can't post? Moderators could
free the one-in-a-million person who just wanted to talk about vulcanized rubber. |
I second that, but it appears that the problem has vanished anyway, so nothing more may be needed.
Edit: Never mind that, I just reported a new kitchen problem. I guess I spoke too soon.
[Edited on 5-10-2014 by zts16]
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bismuthate
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Ummmm... Is anybody else seeing this? I haven't seen much spam in a while and then this happens.
Come to think of it why has spam decreased?
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Zyklon-A
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What the fuck is this? This is the worst spam bot I've ever seen.
Alright it's fixed.
[Edited on 8-6-2014 by Zyklonb]
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Texium
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Just out of curiosity… what was it? I wasn't around when it happened.
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bismuthate
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Well, a spam bot took up the entire today's posts first page.
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The Volatile Chemist
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LOL, who's for DDOSing the people who spam our forum? Even if it IS just a proxy  ?
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Texium
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Oh my, that's pretty awful indeed...
I'm all for it! Although somehow, I don't think the admins would be very approving of that.
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The Volatile Chemist
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We don't have to tell them...(I'm serious here)...RIGHT ADMINS? 
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bismuthate
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https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=30...
what is with spam nowadays? This is just crazed rambling!
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The Volatile Chemist
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"Please welcome our newest member yd5xh6j3b1w9."
Oh, we'll welcome HIM alright.... :\
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numos
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WTF! There's more spam than posts being submitted, can we make a policy to accept members based on interview, or they have to submit a short
autobiography about themselves, along with a picture?
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The Volatile Chemist
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I think that would be a BIT cruel, but it might be a good idea. Admins, can you post the spammer's IPs someplace? Mebbe we can have some fun...
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Etaoin Shrdlu
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| Quote: Originally posted by numos | | WTF! There's more spam than posts being submitted, can we make a policy to accept members based on interview, or they have to submit a short
autobiography about themselves, along with a picture? |
The last suggestion defeats the purpose of even pretending to support anonymity. I would be down for the first, except it means someone who needed
pressing information might not be able to get it in time.
I still say anyone who in their first post posts both a link and one of certain trigger words (shoes, nike, kitchen, etcetera) should
be temporarily suspended. The odd person who genuinely wanted to discuss vulcanized rubber or something could be removed from suspension more easily
than actually going through the effort of pre-accepting every single new contributor.
[Edited on 6-12-2014 by Etaoin Shrdlu]
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pichoro
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Is IP banning not possible? Or not taking place? On the forums I've admined, IP banning didn't catch 100% of spambots, but it did have a pretty good
effect.
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Texium
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Yeah, I think the forcing to submit a picture thing would be creepy and weird. I probably wouldn't have joined if I had to do that. I am still
strongly for the idea of asking a few chemistry questions, and additionally incorporating spammer prevention measures like those suggested by Etaoin
Shrdlu. Anyone who actually wants to join this forum would probably enjoy taking a quick chemistry quiz in the registration process.
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Polverone
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I'm not going to make people take a chemistry quiz to join. I'm not going to require every new member to get manual approval before posting. This has
been suggested many times before and I'm not going to do it.
Temporary IP banning is already incorporated in the ban script and it makes little difference. There are a lot of IP addresses in the world and most
of them are dynamically assigned to clients. Even when a big clump of spammers register all at once they usually have different IP addresses.
I have disabled captchas for registration because legitimate members or would-be members found them frustrating to solve. You still need a working
email address to register. Anti-bot tricks do not stop spammers because many spammers are human beings, though they behave with all the intelligence
of bots.
Just keep reporting the spam. If two independent reports tag the same post as spam, that post and all of the spammer's other posts, plus the spammer's
account, will all be deleted automatically within 2 minutes. Posting about spam in this thread will not cause spam to be deleted.
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Zyklon-A
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So, am I on the list? I've reported plenty of spam, generally it's still there within two minutes. Of course maybe that's because no one else reported
it, but I'd like to know.
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Polverone
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Yes, you're on the list.
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froot
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How difficult would it be to add a 'spam' button at the top right of each post? When clicked by one of 2 members on the spam report list a small
pop-up responds with 'Thanks, reported!' and self closes thereby minimizing interruption in the website experience - or the button simply changes
colour and says 'reported'. This button can be made visible only by members on the spam report list.
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Polverone
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Froot, that is a good idea. I have already written something similar for use by moderators only, for getting rid of new members who aren't posting but
have spam links in their profile. I don't have time to add it now but I will put it on my to-do list.
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