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[*] posted on 26-3-2014 at 05:23
NaCl electrolysis and measuring remaining chlorides with mohr method.


Hi, Im new to the forum and dont know if this is the correct place to post as I have posted this in the beginnings section as well.

Im doing NaCl electrolysis. Im starting out with approximately 1g/l salt solution which gives me 585 ppm chlorides when measured with the mohr silver titration method.

Then activation takes places and Im producing Anolyte and Catholyte. Then I measure the Free Available Chlorine and the Chlorides in the Anolyte and I get about 330ppm FAC and the residual chlorides is about 496 ppm with the Mohr titration.

This doesnt makes sense to me because I expected that starting chlorides - FAC = end chlorides, which is not the case. I expected that some of the chlorides convert in chlorine components (FAC) and you just subtract the FAC from the starting chlorides to obtain end chlorides? In this example I expected end chloride value in my Anolyte to be 255ppm (585 - 330). Any guidance on this?

Where have I got it wrong? Does the silver nitrate titration measures total Cl - meaning chlorides or chlorine components?
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[*] posted on 26-3-2014 at 22:13


Anyone? Any advice please?
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[*] posted on 9-4-2014 at 17:32


Silver Chlorate is an explosive and light sensitive chemical which, while soluble in water, will decompose at room temp to silver chloride, giving falsely high readings for chloride concentration.

On a different note : Please be aware that double posting to raise the position of your thread is strongly discouraged.

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[*] posted on 10-4-2014 at 12:38



What is 'free available Chlorine' and how do you measure it?

What is the pH of the solution.
There will be only three 'things' AFAIK in there (dissolved) if pH is high.

Sodium Chloride.
Sodium Hypochlorite.
Sodium Chlorate (if you have run for some time, how much I don't exactly know).
There may be some Chlorites too (just to contradict myself).

What is the solubility of Silver Chlorite and Silver Hypochlorite does anyone know? ie will they interfere with the Mohrs test?
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[*] posted on 13-4-2014 at 15:33


and some Chlorine gas would have escaped too. This is what causes the pH to rise. Forgot to mention above.
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[*] posted on 16-5-2014 at 00:09


Firstly it is silver nitrate, not silver chlorate that is used in the Mohr method.

pH is near neutral at 6.5-7.0. we are aiming for Hypochlorous acid production. pH doesnt rise.
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[*] posted on 16-5-2014 at 02:54


Nobody said that silver chlorate is used in the Mohr method.
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