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[*] posted on 18-2-2014 at 13:04
Pictures of Element collections


How about a thread for pictures of element collections?
I would like to see what everyone's collection look like. There aren't a lot of pictures that I've seen, and since it seems like a lot of people here have one, why not show them? After all that's what they are for right?

I would start, but mine is so pathetically small so far... I'll post it after some of the more complete collections.
Here's a video of Mrhomescientist's awesome collection.




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[*] posted on 18-2-2014 at 13:22


This is my collection of the elements: http://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/compounds/index2....

I have most of them, just a few remain to be collected.

I now also have samples of Pt and a few better samples of other elements. These pictures will be added soon.




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[*] posted on 18-2-2014 at 14:22


My current element collection:



Whole thing. Note the lack of gases of any kind, save for some store-bought ampoules of Ne and Ar.



Li, Be, B, and C.



Ne, Na, Mg, Al, Si, and S.



Ar, K, Ca, Ti, and Cr. Mn was supposed to be in this picture, but I took it wrong.



Ni, Cu, Zn, and Ga.



Br, Sr, and Zr.



Pd.



In, Sb, and I.



Hf (newest addition!).



Pt, Au, and Hg. (shiiiiny....)



Lastly, Pb and Bi.

Some individual shots:



Nb and Mo. Can't fit these into ampoules just yet, and it took prolonged hammering to get Nb to its current state.



Lithium, finally in its own ampoule. Tried melting some of this stuff earlier today - no dice.



A comparison of my three alkali metals.

I'm not very good at photography, unfortunately - I bet kristofagyok could make even these look amazing. Oh well.


[Edited on 2-19-2014 by elementcollector1]




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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 06:27


Looks a lot better than mine... I guess I could start collecting and keeping some of the gasses (H2, He, N2,O2 Cl2 and Ar), even though I can't amplule them. That would bump my collection to 19, which isn't bad.

[EDIT] I'll start with hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine today because they will be the easiest. Nitrogen, I can just ask for a sample at a tire refill place, maybe the same with argon, helium from a balloon...

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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 07:21


Samples of colorless gases are not interesting at all. You could as well ampoule some air, nobody will ever notice the difference. For that reason, I purchased the spectrum tubes which contain the colorless gases at low pressure and allow gas discharge spectra to be made. In that way you can distinguish.

Some companies also sell simple ampoules with gasses at low pressure. These also can be distinguished from each other, by turning a few rounds of wire around them and applying a high frequency high voltage on the wire. Due to capacitive effects, a small alternating current flows through the gas and this causes color effects which are different for different gases.

http://www.smart-elements.com/?arg=detail&element=Ar&...

Unfortunately these nice samples are quite expensive.




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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 08:29


I know they aren't interesting, which is why I haven't bothered to waist any containers with them. But I haven't really made any additions to my collection recently, so I should start building it up some more... Chlorine at least has some color so I'll definitely do that today, I've made it a bunch of times for experiments, but never to store it (except to test a container once). I know I'll get some spectrum tubes which contain the colorless gases at some point, but I'm not there yet.

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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 10:58


Thanks for the bump on my collection! I've added a lot of new samples since that video. I only have 16 left to acquire! I've been meaning to make another video showcasing each one individually but I'm never happy with the lighting. Tough to get rid of the glare on those glass vials. Someone recommended a polarizing filter, which I'd like to try but I need to buy one.

As for the colorless gases, I agree they can be boring. With mine, I always try to have an interesting story behind them or at least an interesting container. For neon and krypton, I have little bulbs for indicator lights and flashlights. Argon was collected by putting an incandescent lightbulb in a bag, filling it with water, and breaking the bulb inside the bag inside a larger bucket of water. I could then carefully collect the gas in the bag. (Lightbulbs are a surprisingly rich source of elements!) Nitrogen is in a standard vial, but I filled it by dipping it in liquid nitrogen and allowing it to boil off before capping, to displace the air. I tell people that it looks like nothing is in there, but you'll just have to believe me when I relate the story :)


EC1: Your K and Na look like really nice blobs. Did you make them yourself?

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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 12:45


You're welcome, Are you sure that incandescent light bulbs are pure argon? I thought they are a mixture of nitrogen and argon under reduced pressure.



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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 13:03


I'd read that light bulb filler gas is either nitrogen or argon at low pressure, but I've never been able to confirm that with the bulb manufacturers. I suppose I don't really know for sure what gas it is. I wonder if the wire wrapping technique woelen mentioned would work on a light bulb? Then you could distinguish by the color of the glow. Or see if lithium blackens under bulb gas, indicating reaction with nitrogen.
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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 13:10


Or calcium would also work, as it reacts with nitrogen too.
on wiki it says The bulb is filled with an inert gas such as argon (93%) and nitrogen (7%).

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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 15:48


@woelen: I looked at your element collection and saw that your chromium was produced through electrolysis. Out of curiosity do you have a procedure that you could share? I couldn't seem to find anything on it here on the forum and Google yielded very little.

@MrHomeScientist: Light bulb gases tend to be either xenon or argon and sometimes nitrogen, when you get a halogen bulb you get very small quantities of iodine or bromine added.




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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 16:25


Ok, so here is my collection:


PICT0090.jpg - 116kB PICT0084.jpg - 73kB PICT0083.jpg - 110kB
Lithium, Carbon, Magnesium

PICT0091.jpg - 142kB PICT0094.jpg - 80kB PICT0086.jpg - 157kB
Aluminum, Iron, Copper

PICT0087.jpg - 146kB PICT0082.jpg - 115kB PICT0080.jpg - 69kB
Zinc, Iodine, Gold, Lead.

Can somebody please delete the last image, it replaced my lead, and I can't delete it, it just comes back.

[Edited on 20-2-2014 by Zyklonb]

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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 16:54


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
This is my collection of the elements: http://woelen.homescience.net/science/chem/compounds/index2....

Just absolutely amazing to see all those elements, I love looking at these collections! Keep up the wonderful work everyone! :D




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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 17:28


I also decided to post a picture of chlorine, It's not a very good sample, it still has water in it, may not be 100% pure, oh well. Also, I forgot sulfur:

PICT0092.JPG - 59kB PICT0089.jpg - 53kB
[EDIT] I tried to post it in my other reply, but I guess I had already posted to many pictures.
If you're wondering about cadmium, which I have isolated most recently, I had a use for it (which the reason I made it) and it's already used up. I should have taken a picture


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[*] posted on 19-2-2014 at 17:34


I must say Woelen's collection is chemist porn :p I discovered what many elements you never hear about looked like! By the way your sample of chlorine looks great anyways zyklonb, the yellowish color is quite as intense as it can be. Of course when you'll have time making a sample without water would be a good idea however.
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Quote: Originally posted by MrHomeScientist  

EC1: Your K and Na look like really nice blobs. Did you make them yourself?

[Edited on 2-19-2014 by MrHomeScientist]


Sodium: Nope, bought. Of course, it was in one of those hexagonal-prism foil packs from United Nuclear, so I pressed a few slices into a wiry sort of shape, slitted them down through the ampoule neck until it was full, and then melted them inside the ampoule under kerosene.

Potassium: Same thing, except this was homemade! Took a couple tries, though - my ampoules' necks kept breaking due to increasingly ridiculous circumstances. This was sealed under mineral oil.

The problem with sealing ampoules full of hydrocarbon solvents is twofold and annoying. First, if the flame touches any residue of solvent (say, on the walls, even) it leaves a black carbon residue that makes the ampoule walls brittle and significantly harder to seal (this is evident in my ampoules of calcium, potassium and lithium). Second, it occasionally catches on fire if it's particularly volatile - though it seems to be easy to blow out.

Looking at my ampoules of strontium and calcium, and then at my ampoules of sodium and potassium, it's easy to see which group lithium deludes itself into acting like. :D

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[*] posted on 20-2-2014 at 00:56


Hi Here are some pictures of my favourite elements in my collection.

Bromine.jpg - 87kB Caesium.jpg - 177kB Phosphorus.jpg - 134kB Potassium.jpg - 85kB Sodium.jpg - 99kB
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[*] posted on 20-2-2014 at 05:44


Cesium and Bromine look amazing! Is that white phosphorus, to the right of the red?
I think that iodine is my favorite out of mine, the crystals look so much better in real life. Lithium is my most irreplaceable, although the gold is worth more.



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[*] posted on 20-2-2014 at 07:32


Lots of really nice samples. Great thread idea! I'll have to take pictures of all of mine and make a blog post about them. Might be too many photos to post them all here :)

Zylkonb: I've never seen aluminum like that. It reminds me of the "sponge" of hairlike crystals I get from doing the silver tree demo (silver nitrate + copper wire). I also laughed at the big CAUTION label on the copper wire.

elementcollector1: Sounds like a pretty hairy process to get those things into ampoules! I remember that Zan Divine had a thread about ampouling alkali metals that had some pretty creative solutions. For my collection, the elements I have yet to collect are K, Ca, As, Rb, Nb, Pd, Sb, La, Ce, Nd, Pm, Ho, Tm, Lu, Hf, and Ir. Technically I'm still missing F and Am, but I have representative compounds for each and that's probably the best I'll be able to do (Teflon for F and an AmO2 smoke detector button). I also have made K but haven't been able to refine it to presentation quality worthy of the shelf quite yet. I use uranium ore to represent Po - Pa, because of the decay chain of U, but I do still need U and Th metals. Finally, I just realized Pm is probably uncollectable due to its radioactivity. So depending on how you look at it, I might have a couple more than 16 left :P

nezza: That cesium is gorgeous. What else is in the vial with your bromine? Something to absorb vapors?
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[*] posted on 20-2-2014 at 08:28


In case anyone likes, for the cost of postage, I don't mind donating a couple pieces of Sb to those seeking samples. The Sb I have can be seen in this thread(you may need to scroll down)

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=26378

Likewise for representative F compounds I don't mind donating samples of calcium fluoride, as I have quite a bit.




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[*] posted on 20-2-2014 at 08:41


I could also give a some samples (5-10g) freely of the Al from the picture, it's pyro grade bright flake Al ~27 micron treated with anti dust powder. (From Skylighter.)
I would love some Antimony, Mailinmypocket. I would rather trade something than pay for postage, it just seems a lot easier.
[EDIT] CAUTION contains, Zinc May cause blindness, WARNING Iron filings, May be attracted to magnetic source, CAUTION Copper wire, May cause electrical shock if connected to HV source. :D ...It was from my old chemistry set that I got when I was like 5 or 6.

I got some iron that was melted in a thermite. Here it is:

[Edited on 20-2-2014 by Zyklonb]

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[*] posted on 23-2-2014 at 04:24


Zyklonb. Yes that is white phosphorus next to the red.

MrHomeScientist. That is just some tissue to pad the bottom of the universal.

One more picture, not an element, but recently I have had a go at making some NaK and ampouling it under argon. This is my first attempt. There is some oil in the tube as well which spoils the appearance a bit.


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[*] posted on 23-2-2014 at 11:33


Cool... I'm too scared to make NaK, at least with the limited apparatus and equipment that I have.



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[*] posted on 23-2-2014 at 12:28


Mailinmypocket I would love to get a small sample of Sb if you are offering. Its hard to find any amount in small quantity online for a reasonable price, so I've been holding off on buying it.

In the spirit of the thread here is a picture of my element collection:



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[*] posted on 23-2-2014 at 12:37


Just a note for those looking for antimony samples, since I have received a few requests. If you would like some please PM me as I don't always remember to check back on threads and may forget about it.
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