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[*] posted on 19-8-2011 at 23:45


Tell me about it. I have two of the 10 tab boxes I bought off fleabay for about $12 each, in the proper amount for radiation emergencies. You never know when they may come in handy. Two to three days after the Japan incident when everyone was panicking I was looking on the site for the going price. Some were selling this standard box of ten for $60 to $150, this was also the range on Amazon at the time but everyone was out of stock. Also saw a few sellers around $300 and a couple at $600. Madness if you ask me and also criminal. Over the years I have seen these kits for stocking your shelter in the $6 to $12 range on a good day when the world is not freaking out. Funny as hell but the ion chambers I have bought over the years around $5 each (mostly for a source of the tubes and high value glass resistors) were running $100 to $300. I say funny because if you get a reading on one of these you are already dead anyway so what is the point? Idiots could not tell the difference between a Geiger counter and an ion chamber in terms of detection range. Pissed me off because this event ruined my good cheap sources for parts. By changing the scale the meters could be used to repair a Geiger counter with a bad one. Plus I loved adding a preamp and PM tube with xtal to the ion chamber (sans ion chamber) to build a very cheap scintillation counter(s). I hate it when this end of the world everyone panicking/price gouging crap ruins perfectly good sources of cheap mad science.






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[*] posted on 20-8-2011 at 11:57


We should all put our money together and offer to buy their company....... HAHAHAHA
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[*] posted on 29-8-2011 at 07:50


I love the street view! :P They must be trying to remain low profile or something.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 13:30


Well, it's been close to a week... and I'd like to start experimenting as soon as possible.
Tried to email them, the message wouldn't send. (Over a day later it's still trying). Tried to contact them on their website, said something about email problems.
Ugh... cart below, in case that helps.

Qty Item Description Sub Total
1 CH4940-4 MAGNESIUM METAL POWDER 40 MESH, 4 oz. - $9.00
$9.00
1 CH4960-3 MAGNESIUM METAL RIBBON, 3 ft. - $1.00
$1.00
1 CH6430-4 POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE FLAKES, 4 oz. - $2.99
$2.99
1 CH6560-4 POTASSIUM PERMANGANATE USP CRYSTALS, 4 oz. - $5.50
$5.50
1 CHK0155-4 CERIUM OXIDE LAB GRADE, 4 oz. - $4.99
$4.99
1 FL727 Flask, Filtering w/Side Tube, 500ml, Heavy Pyrex - $14.99
$14.99
1 FU263 Funnel, Buchner, Porcelain, 70mm - $7.75
$7.75
1 CH1800-1 ANTIMONY METAL LUMPS PURE, 1 oz. - $5.60
$5.60
1 CH7240-1 PLATINUM WIRE 30 GAGE, 1 INCH - $6.99
$6.99
1 CH5890-100 PALLADIUM METAL BLACK POWDER, 100 mg - $15.00
$15.00
1 CH5330-1 MERCURY METAL DISTILLED, 1 oz. - $7.50
$7.50
1 CC122 80ml Casserole Crucible - $6.50
$6.50
Sub Total: $87.81
Shipping: $18.13
Tax: $0.00
*Adjustment: $27.50
Sub Total: $133.44
Total: $133.44




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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 15:12


Quote: Originally posted by IrC  
If he could save 900 percent by waiting for an item he waits.


If I could save 900%, I would wait as long as I had to. Math was never my strong suit, but how would that happen since saving 100% would make it free? :)
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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 15:18


So, how do I get them to ship fasta? I want to begin the experiments. >:)



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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 15:27


the don't actually stock much in the way of chemicals. they acquire them as they are ordered. sometimes it takes a month+ for delivery. they are absolutely reliable and you will get your order but hassling them will not help you one bit. i have been using elemental scientific for a couple of years now and have never been unsatisfied with their service, but if you can't muster a little patience, you may want to shop elsewhere.
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[*] posted on 11-9-2012 at 15:58


Right, thanks. (I guess I was kind of hopeful after that one guy a ways upwards got his in a week.)
Well, I suppose I could wait.




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[*] posted on 12-9-2012 at 03:58


Difference being he didn't order any chemicals in his order.
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[*] posted on 12-9-2012 at 15:07


I ordered my first nitric acid from these guys back when they were Hagenow Labs. I remember even then that they had a great selection for individuals.

May I suggest patience, please, for anyone having troubles. Any company that gladly caters to us should get some leeway. Try setting up an account with Cole-Palmer and see how far that gets you.
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[*] posted on 12-9-2012 at 19:25


Quote: Originally posted by Bot0nist  
My order arrived at ~ noon today. Ordered on the 16, arrived on the 19. I live in the south east USA, so it was several states away. Everything came in perfect condition. I am very pleased with my order. I am recommending them to all of you.



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Looks like the truth is in. Not that we had any doubt.
Granted I may be a year late but holy crapola.. those thermometers look great. You get a chance to test them? with such a low( but excellent) price I kinda wonder how well they perform..
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[*] posted on 13-9-2012 at 06:02


They work as to be expected. I go through a fair bit of them due to rough handling, but at least when the break I can get some Hg.



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[*] posted on 14-9-2012 at 20:21


Generally speaking: what service do they usually use to ship non chemical orders( unless they wanna count a thermometer as a chemical)?
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[*] posted on 15-9-2012 at 01:24


so far every thing i have ordered has come via ups.
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[*] posted on 15-9-2012 at 08:25


It seems to be USPS 4 day shipping. For me, at least.



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[*] posted on 15-9-2012 at 12:26


It's the same guy who ran Hagenow Labs out of Manitowok WI. His business has increased about 10 fold, but he hasn't hired enough hands to handle all the extra business.
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[*] posted on 15-9-2012 at 19:28


Someone should really lend him a hand, I'd be happy to work for E-Scientific.

EDIT: Now if only I didn't live in Washington State...

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[*] posted on 16-9-2012 at 04:13


That would be a great job. If only it wasn't in Wisconsin, and closer to Michigan than Minnesota.

I'll have to put in an order one of these days, but I can get most of the glassware cheaper from Alchemy Lab Supply. Very impressive array of chemicals, though.
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[*] posted on 20-9-2012 at 05:16


Order status is now 'Shipped'... much earlier than a month! :D



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[*] posted on 21-9-2012 at 11:32


You haven't lived, if you haven't ordered from big-boys like VWR.

In the old days, my U. used to order from them, and wait weeks, months, years....for shipment. We paid, they back-ordered, and the stuff never came. Ever!

Since they considered us little guys, our rage didn't trouble them much. Meanwhile, hundreds of students waited, and we had to find alternate experiments for them to conduct.

In this current age of expected prompt service, a few weeks of delay seems outrageous. Ebay has trained us to have high expectations.

In years past, long delivery delays were commonplace, and they could bankrupt you.
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[*] posted on 21-9-2012 at 18:21


Funnily enough, I actually thought the package arrived today. A UPS truck arrived, turned into my neighborhood... and then delivered to the house next to mine. XD
Ebay has trained us to have high expectations because in this day and age, we know little else. Technological Era, anyone? Digital Age? I thought it was something like that...
"In years past"... The beginning of a thrilling tale, ha ha. But seriously, if that was what it was like, no wonder high schools these days have next to no equipment in terms of glassware and reagents. No ground glass, almost nothing 'dangerous' (let's combine vinegar and baking soda!), and so on. I visited Rochester U., finished my summer class for the day early, and poked around in the reagent cabinet to kill time.
And I was amazed at what I saw. They had chemicals like mercury chloride, cyanides, lithium metal, bromine liquid, entire shelves of molar solutions of NaOH and such, and too many more to count. They also had pure toluene and acetone as washing solvents, and allowed us to use them (so long as we were relatively careful).
We distilled stuff with ground-glass apparatus, and used electron microscopes... High school had nothing on this university in terms of supplies. I could keep going all day, but I don't think the Rochester staff want me to reveal TOO much... *wink*
Anyway, I think it's great that E-Scientific is offering so much stuff to the home chemist, even though they're so short on help (last I heard, they only had 3 people working for them).
Well, storytime is over. Back to testing.




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[*] posted on 21-9-2012 at 20:35


Pardon this but to anyone who ordered from them before: what make of flasks& condensers( ground jointed ware in general) do you get when you order? US made?
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[*] posted on 21-9-2012 at 20:57


What 'make'? It looks like Pyrex, standard borosilicate. At least, that's the vacuum flask I'm getting. As for the origin, no clue. Probably America.



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biggrin.gif posted on 24-9-2012 at 15:41
The Truth is In... AGAIN!


Well, here's a touching story: My order arrived today!


P1050175.jpg - 68kB P1050176.jpg - 81kB P1050177.jpg - 71kB P1050178.jpg - 71kB

From left to right, first pic:
Casserole Crucible, Mg ribbon, Mg atomized powder, KOH, KMnO4, CeO2, vacuum filtering flask, (second row) Buchner funnel, Sb powder, Pd powder, Hg liquid, Pt wire

Second pic: Closeup of the top row of reagents, mainly the Mg ribbon and powder, KOH, KMnO4, and CeO2.

Third pic: Closeup of the Sb and Pd powders, as well as the Hg liquid.

Fourth pic: Closeup of the Pt wire, appearing as that little line on the left of the bag for it.

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[*] posted on 28-9-2012 at 20:03
My to cents


Like others here I had placed two separate orders, and waited over a month for them to arrive, however the packing was awesome and all of my ordered pieces were top notch.
I was amazed just how much $160 would buy you from these guys.

Yes they are slow, Yes, back ordered items take forever (I am still waiting myself on iodide that was ordered almost 3 months ago now).

However, I will place more orders with them, other than slow shipping (which I understand why now) they are awesome, and combined both my orders into one box which was nice.
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