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No one has mentioned that you can buy 40lb or 50lb bags of NaCl (for water softener and ice melt) at almost any store for like $3-$5. This is much
cheaper than KCl, or CaCl2, and has no intentionally added ingredients. There may be some mineral contaminants since it is derived from mined salt
with minimal processing.
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Daddy
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Sorry if this is off-topic - but the 25% HCl I buy in the hardware store is also somewhat yellow. So it has impurities in it?
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hissingnoise
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Yes, HCl is often tinted slightly lemonish. . .
It may be that HCl undergoes some slight oxidation on standing, freeing small amounts of Cl2, as HOCl/HCl, but I'm just speculating. . .
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entropy51
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Quote: Originally posted by hissingnoise  | Yes, HCl is often tinted slightly lemonish. . .
It may be that HCl undergoes some slight oxidation on standing, freeing small amounts of Cl2, as HOCl/HCl, but I'm just speculating. . .
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That's what I thought too, and I don't disagree. But I have a bottle of ACS reagent HCl that's 20 years
old and it has no yellow tint. Some have said it's iron contamination, but I wonder? I think it's been cussed and discussed here before, with no
resolution that I know of. All that being said, my hardware store HCl is not yellow either, so it seems to be a sometimes thing. If used for
something such as preparing Cl2 it may not be problematic, but I wouldn't use yellow HCl in an analytical procedure.
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hissingnoise
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I was thinking that dissolved atmospheric oxygen might play a part---but HCl in a sealed container with little airspace might be more stable!
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No, HCl is not turning yellow due to dissolvedm atmospheric oxygen. The yellow/green contamination usually is due to traces of dissolved metal salts
(mainly iron) and due to organics. I once did a test of yellow/green HCl with a solution of ammonium thiocyanate and the test was positive on iron,
the solution turned red.
You can make very pure colorless HCl of around 20% concentration by distilling the yellow/green acid. If the concentration of the acid is higher than
20%, first dilute with some water and then distill at well above 100 C (the azeotrope comes over). In this way you can make very good quality,
colorless HCl. If the concentration is lower than 20%, first boil off the water and when the temperature rises to well above 100 C, then start
collecting the liquid. With this you also get 20% HCl.
I once did this procecure with an all-glass distillation setup. I stopped distilling when appr. 20% of the original acid remained, just to be sure
that no crap goes over into the clean liquid. The dark green/yellow remains can be kept and is perfectly suitable for cleaning/rinsing dirty
glassware.
[Edited on 23-11-09 by woelen]
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