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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 12:16
What to do with potential sources for raw materials


This thread goes for all of ye chemists who find a potential source for raw materials (e. g. sap of a particular plant, mineral, weird fungus, rare polymers, etc.) but have no idea about what to do with it. Posting it here might be useful, since other members can find a use for another member's product.

I'll start.
What on Earth can I do with Pinus halepensis resin? I must add that I can get only relatively small quantities (no more than 3-5g).

[Edited on 9-4-2015 by Eddygp]




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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 12:26


Apparently there are several uses ranging from linoleum flooring to medicinal.

I didn't search too far but knowing the chemical structure may help narrow down something for you.

Latin name: Pinus halepensis
Family: Pinaceae (Pine Family)

Medicinal use of Aleppo Pine: The turpentine obtained from the resin of all pine trees is antiseptic, diuretic, rubefacient and vermifuge. It is a valuable remedy used internally in the treatment of kidney and bladder complaints and is used both internally and as a rub and steam bath in the treatment of rheumatic affections. It is also very beneficial to the respiratory system and so is useful in treating diseases of the mucous membranes and respiratory complaints such as coughs, colds, influenza and TB. Externally it is a very beneficial treatment for a variety of skin complaints, wounds, sores, burns, boils etc and is used in the form of liniment plasters, poultices, herbal steam baths and inhalers.

Description of the plant:

Plant:
Evergreen
Tree
Height:
15 m
(49 feet)
Habitat of the herb: Rocky places and hills by the sea.

Edible parts of Aleppo Pine: A resin from the trunk is used for chewing and for flavouring wine. A vanillin flavouring is obtained as a by-product of other resins that are released from the pulpwood.

Other uses of the herb: A tan or green dye is obtained from the needles. The needles contain a substance called terpene, this is released when rain washes over the needles and it has a negative effect on the germination of some plants, including wheat. A fairly wind-tolerant tree, it can be used in shelterbelt plantings. "Greek turpentine" is obtained from the stems.Oleo-resins are present in the tissues of all species of pines, but these are often not present in sufficient quantity to make their extraction economically worthwhile. The resins are obtained by tapping the trunk, or by destructive distillation of the wood. In general, trees from warmer areas of distribution give the higher yields. Turpentine consists of an average of 20% of the oleo-resin and is separated by distillation. Turpentine has a wide range of uses including as a solvent for waxes etc, for making varnish, medicinal etc. Rosin is the substance left after turpentine is removed. This is used by violinists on their bows and also in making sealing wax, varnish etc. Pitch can also be obtained from the resin and is used for waterproofing, as a wood preservative etc. Trees have an extensive root system and they are planted on sand dunes in order to stabilize them. Wood - of mediocre quality. Used for rough construction. A tannin is obtained from the bark.

http://www.naturalmedicinalherbs.net/herbs/p/pinus-halepensi...




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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 12:43


The natural pine turpentine from such trees is a much better sensitizer of ammonium nitrate explosives than fuel oil- Faster shooting, smaller critical diameter.

The rosin left from distilation of turpentine is of utility in organic fueled fireworks star compositions. See Shimizu on "pine root pitch".

Of course, you could make retsina with the resin instead of blowing it up... Whatever floats your boat.

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[*] posted on 9-4-2015 at 18:02


I have access to a lot of pine sap my self. though not the Mediterranean version. several species from california, mainly bull pine.

I use it around the garden a bit as part of a product, and I made some chasing pitch for hammered copper work. I was able to gather several pounds a day if I had the time. plenty for the time being, I don't need to harvest any time soon.

the garden product I made was a molding solution to save plants. like if your tomato got too bushy and the interior got a mold patch on the trunk( big tomato) from overly high humidity; it would kill you whole bush off. it was similar to pruning tar, but not petroleum based, and no chemical smell. marketable because of the rounded solution to the problem on a few fronts. there was a lot more in it, but you can do your own trial and error there :P I have yet to make and bottle a huge batch for sale, but every one I gave a sample to was really impressed. for now I just make it for my self and give away a few bottles now and again to family.

the chasing pitch was easy to make. it is moldable when warmed in a water bath, and firm when cooled to room temp. this allows you to press it into the back of a piece of metal and then work the front with a hammer and punch. with light heat it or hard enough blow, it will pop off to work the reverse side. I used mostly pitch, some glycerine, bees wax, a tissue paper and a little olive oil( i think). the tissue( kleenex) needs to be shredded and mixed in until it's just an admixed pulp. I have the approximate recipe written down. but I'm sure you could find one online that has been around longer and prob works a bit better. this stuff works just fine though.

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