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Tetraamine Hydrazine Persulphate?
Ya know the Tetraamine Copper Persulphate complex? Could I make Hydrazine Sulphate and then modify this procedure to make a Tetraamine Hydrazine Persulphate?
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Ammonia forms a complex ion with many transition metal ions, including copper ions. I do not expect ammonia to form a complex ion with hydrazine, as
hydrazine is not a transition metal. Or a metal of any sort.
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Sure?
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Then, maybe... Tetraamine Alkali Complex?
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Am I sure that it's not a transition metal? Yes, quite.
Am I absolutely sure that hydrazine sulphate will not form any kind of addition compound with ammonia? Not really. It certainly would not be
analogous to an ammine complex- it would be more similar to a hydrate (with the ammonia attaching itself to the hydrazinium ion through hydrogen
bonding). Since ammonia does not, as far as I am aware, bond to the very similar ammonium ion, I don't expect it to do so. But it's possible that if
you recrystallized ammonium persulphate from liquid ammonia, that you might get an ammonia adduct of some stoichiometry.
You'd be better off trying to make a hydrazine complex of copper(II) persulphate.
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Persulfate, even when not acidified, can be fairly reactive. I would think it would just oxidize the hydrazine. Hydrazine is a reducing agent itself.
Woelen tried to make hydrazinium iodate and found it could not be done.
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Quote: Originally posted by AndersHoveland  | Persulfate, even when not acidified, can be fairly reactive. I would think it would just oxidize the hydrazine. Hydrazine is a reducing agent itself.
Woelen tried to make hydrazinium iodate and found it could not be done.
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That's a good point- I now remember reading that hydrazine can be used to reduce copper to make a copper mirror, so I doubt you'd be able to make a
hydrazine complex of copper(II) persulphate.
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Any Hydrazine Complexes that can be formed from Hydrazine Sulphate?
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Typically the sulfate group is rather worthless, the oxygen atoms are too strongly bonded to the sulfur. Persulfate is not a good oxidizer for
energetic purposes, only one of its oxygen atoms really easily come off.
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