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[*] posted on 8-6-2012 at 21:06


First off, keep the pictures coming! The updated pages will be up soon.

Also, I need someone with a good background in Electrochemistry to go through that section (it has been awhile since I learned that stuff). It would be great if someone could read through it and make it much more readable and check on accuracy.




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[*] posted on 12-6-2012 at 02:33


Which section do you mean. I read the part on electrolysis. It is an interesting read, but I would like to have it more structured and have a few practical examples of useful setups for making chemicals. The section on electrode materials should be better. A much stronger distinction should be made between anode and cathode materials. Anodes almost always are MUCH more critical and much more prone to erosion than cathodes. For many types of electrolysis setups one can choose between quite a few cathode materials, but for anodes frequently one only has a few choices, such as carbon, platinum, MMO or PbO2-coated metal. Sometimes one can use the dissolving/oxidation of an anode. If e.g. you want to make a nickel salt, then electrolysis with a nickel anode may be an interesting option.



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[*] posted on 12-6-2012 at 06:50


Quote: Originally posted by woelen  
Which section do you mean. I read the part on electrolysis. It is an interesting read, but I would like to have it more structured and have a few practical examples of useful setups for making chemicals. The section on electrode materials should be better. A much stronger distinction should be made between anode and cathode materials. Anodes almost always are MUCH more critical and much more prone to erosion than cathodes. For many types of electrolysis setups one can choose between quite a few cathode materials, but for anodes frequently one only has a few choices, such as carbon, platinum, MMO or PbO2-coated metal. Sometimes one can use the dissolving/oxidation of an anode. If e.g. you want to make a nickel salt, then electrolysis with a nickel anode may be an interesting option.


I agree with you Woelen. I read through that last week to get a feel for it and it just feels... Clumsy. It was very interesting to relearn the material, I am not a big electrochem guy, but it was a little tedious and needs some reworking. What I'd like to do is remove it from Chapter 3 and make it its own chapter. I feel like there is enough material, charts, and examples that could be put into it to warrant that.

Once again, I am no expert on Electrochemistry, therefore, it would be great if you could help. I would let you have free range over the section, with of course some editing and book uniformity rights.

Thanks in advance if you are willing to undertake this! :D




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[*] posted on 13-6-2012 at 01:23


I already am in the process of writing a section on electrolysis experimenting in my website. I have quite some material already and have done a lot of experiments in this field. Right now you can find info on different experiments already on my website, but the information is scattered and not very systematic.

If I finish this project (I hope to be able to do so during the holidays) then I am willing to donate the text for the book as well. Of course, text for a website cannot be transferred one to one to a book, but with some minor editing and reordering it should be possible to make it suitable for a book.




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[*] posted on 14-6-2012 at 04:32


Excellent, thank you Woelen



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[*] posted on 30-6-2012 at 07:48


Hey guys! NEW UPDATES!! Check out the new pictures in Chapter 2

Until next time, keep the pictures coming!




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[*] posted on 30-6-2012 at 09:01


Very nicely laid out, and thanks for using my images!:)



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[*] posted on 30-6-2012 at 23:41


Quote: Originally posted by Hexavalent  
Very nicely laid out, and thanks for using my images!:)


No problem! Thanks for the submissions!

Alright everyone, still need more photos (Absolutely anything chemistry and "pretty"), plus someone to help me write the electrochem section. I know Woelen has info, I just don't know if I will have the time to go through the material and create a coherent chapter on my own. Plus, I am very rusty on my electrochem!




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[*] posted on 1-7-2012 at 18:15


I have a single crystal of copper acetate as large as a fingernail and it's still growing. It will be a few more weeks until the solution dries up completely, but the crystal is absolutely stunning.

Where can I post the picture of the crystal when it's finished growing?

For electrochem, I have a formula that may be good to put into the book, nothing fancy:

Ecell= Eocell - RTln(Q)/(nF)
F= faraday's constant
R= universal gas constant
T= temperature in kelvin
Q= reaction quotient
n= number of moles of electrons exchanged in the reaction

Perhaps it's a good idea to include a table of standard reduction potentials as well.




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[*] posted on 24-7-2012 at 15:42


Just wanted to say thanks to all of the fantastic pictures that have been submitted over the past month! Keep them coming!

Sarge




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[*] posted on 1-10-2012 at 10:18


Phew, been way too long since I've been on here! Hello old faithfuls!

So the link to the book should be updated through chapter three! (Hopefully after my next round of exams, I'll check out 4)




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[*] posted on 25-6-2013 at 05:39


Alright, so it's summer and I have freetime again away from the classroom. I am in need of your guys' help on a few different techniques that I am, quite honestly, in the dark about as far as home conduction:

Titrimetry and gravimetry, besides looking at wikipedias and blogs to learn more about them, I am no expert (spoiled by modern day lab analysis).

Chromatography, I am very much spoiled by my lab and have no idea how this is conducted in a home setting. If someone wants to write a little something on TLC's and flash chromatography, that would be wonderful!

Steam distillation, I actually have never done this and don't quite know it's applications. Any info on this would be welcome!

Well, that's it for now, PLEASE send me any parts you can contribute and of course the name you would like included in the credits!




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[*] posted on 25-6-2013 at 07:06


Quote: Originally posted by sargent1015  
The more pictures this book has, the better! Like the old school chem texts.

Which have precisely zero pictures? Have you ever seen a legitimately "old school" chemistry book?

Let me know if you need any specific Photoshop work done, or equations/structural diagrams.




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[*] posted on 25-6-2013 at 08:22


Old school is quite relative for this 21 year old chemist :P



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[*] posted on 25-6-2013 at 15:21


i suppose you guys will add CuCl2 for colouring to the book, and possibly also Cu(I)Cl for Cu2C2?
i have a route on how to easily and very quickly make Cu(I)Cl needing something you 99.9% will have around the house

also weiming1998 (i believe this is his name on youtube aswell as here on SM) made a nice tutorial on how to make dichromate using steel

i have some nice pics of CuCl2 and Na2Cr2O7 both in concentrated solutions and high definition
but theyre not with a white screen or black screen as background tho
send me an u2u if youre interested in some of it




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[*] posted on 25-6-2013 at 17:37


Actually, if you wanted to write up a nice procedure for that, I am thinking of including a section of "experiments" from easy to professional towards the end of the book.



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