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[*] posted on 6-12-2024 at 01:56
Is there anything valuable to extract from acorns?


I have 2 very old oaks growing near the border of my homestead. There is a lot of acorns in grass and on a road, they should be collected. I was inspired once looking how Fery can extract something valuable from anything growing on his land. So, I'd like to follow his approach. Is anything valuable for organic chemist I can extract from acorns by means of chemical treatment or fermentation?
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[*] posted on 6-12-2024 at 04:19


Probably a read of this article
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn
can give some ideas that could be followed up using the links and references
looks like a good starting point.

I found Chapter 6 of the first reference quite interesting.
'Squirrels, Acorns, and Tannins'




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[*] posted on 6-12-2024 at 07:44


Gallotannin

From a previous thread:

Extraction of gallotannin - Ideal method?

Quote: Originally posted by UnintentionalChaos  
I believe only certain types of galls work for that. Red oak acorns sure as hell work. Boil a few in water and then add a tiny bit of ferrous salt solution (I had rusty nails soaking in vinegar) and it goes inky-black. I did this before I even really got into chemistry as an attempt to dye cloth black without store bought dyes (I got gray at best).

[Edited on 7-17-08 by UnintentionalChaos]


Myriad results online for isolating gallotannin from acorns.
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[*] posted on 6-12-2024 at 09:41


Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
Probably a read of this article
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn
can give some ideas that could be followed up using the links and references
looks like a good starting point.

I found Chapter 6 of the first reference quite interesting.
'Squirrels, Acorns, and Tannins'


That was a good read about squirrels and acorns.
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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 08:18


Quote: Originally posted by Morgan  
Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
Probably a read of this article
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn
can give some ideas that could be followed up using the links and references
looks like a good starting point.

I found Chapter 6 of the first reference quite interesting.
'Squirrels, Acorns, and Tannins'


That was a good read about squirrels and acorns.


Related subject matter
https://youtu.be/GoVYQwTXJOM?t=281
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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 09:44


This is really interesting how the evolution of plants and animals go in connection with each other.
The part of acorns in the garden are already germinated.
Probably I will try to add yeast to see how much carbohydrates could be converted to alcohol.
As for tannin I will look how to break big molecules in some smaller and more useful ones.

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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 14:00


Sort and discard soft or holy shells
Dry in oven / dehydrator / sun
Deshell meat

Boil for 20 minutes
Swap out the water

Repeat boil 3 times.

Mash 1lb of acorns with 4 ounce of heavy cream and 1 cup sugar or honey.
Add to ready made pie crust and cover with foil
Bake @ 350 for 30 minutes.




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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 15:19


Quote: Originally posted by Rainwater  
Bake @ 350 for 30 minutes.

°F or °C?

Edit: OK, °F. I suppose so.

Acorns can be up to 30 percent fat. Won't that mess up with fermentation?

[Edited on 8-12-2024 by bnull]




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[*] posted on 7-12-2024 at 16:13


That's gotta be F.
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[*] posted on 8-12-2024 at 03:41


I probably will try. This year they are mixed with fallen leaves already. I need several dozens families of squirrels to help.
By the way, I read it is better remove tannins with cold water because hot water removes glutene like substance which is good for baking.

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[*] posted on 8-12-2024 at 08:47


Ether way if you don't get all the tannins out, your going to have an upset tummy.



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[*] posted on 18-1-2025 at 03:26


I've got the book

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[*] posted on 18-1-2025 at 16:52


Well, if you put them outside at the right time of year, you can extract venison from the pile if you have a rifle.
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