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Oxone (peroxymonopersulfate) and its uses as an oxidizer

symboom - 11-6-2017 at 21:24

Potassium peroxymonopersulfat

Finding organic oxidation reactions with oxone is hard

reacts with acetone to produce dimethyldioxirane

monoethanolamine oxidized to mononitroethanol??

MPS is a versatile oxidant. It oxidizes aldehydes to carboxylic acids; in the presence of alcoholic solvents, the esters may be obtained.[3] Internal alkenes may be cleaved to two carboxylic acids (see below), while terminal alkenes may be epoxidized.



Alcohol to aldehyde
Aldehyde to carboxlic acid
Acetylene to oxalic acid
Ethylene to ethylene glycol



Vs https://www.nextgurukul.in/nganswers/ask-question/answer/Ace...
Acetylene reacts with Cold KMnO4 to form formic acid and on reaction with hot KMnO4 it forms Oxalic acid.


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AvBaeyer - 12-6-2017 at 01:46

The literature is loaded with references using ozone as an oxidizer. For example, check out Fieser and Fieser "Reagents for Organic Synthesis." Also see the reagents database at paperplane.io if you do not have access to a library. Wikipedia is completely useless. You could also go to the ACS website and do a search using oxone as the search term. Though you will not have direct access to the papers, you willl be able to get a good look at some of the literature available.

Things are not so truly hard to find - it is just learning where and how to look. It takes practice.

AvB

Velzee - 12-6-2017 at 17:32

Quote: Originally posted by AvBaeyer  
The literature is loaded with references using ozone as an oxidizer. For example, check out Fieser and Fieser "Reagents for Organic Synthesis." Also see the reagents database at paperplane.io if you do not have access to a library. Wikipedia is completely useless. You could also go to the ACS website and do a search using oxone as the search term. Though you will not have direct access to the papers, you willl be able to get a good look at some of the literature available.

Things are not so truly hard to find - it is just learning where and how to look. It takes practice.

AvB


OP is referring to oxone not ozone.

Melgar - 12-6-2017 at 18:13

Quote: Originally posted by Velzee  
OP is referring to oxone not ozone.

I think the "ozone" was just a typo or a phone autocorrect thing. The second time it's mentioned AvBaeyer wrote "oxone", and so clearly understood what OP was referring to.

AvBaeyer - 13-6-2017 at 02:17

Melgar,

Thank you for your post. Indeed it was a typo. I am not used to my small ipad keyboard and the z and x are next to each other. Need to do better proofreading.

AvB

Oxone combination with permanganate

symboom - 13-6-2017 at 05:43

Now this is going to sound odd but potassium peroxymonosulfate has no reaction with potassium permanganate two powerful oxidizers together what could test if its more powerful than each alone

KMnO4 + 2 KF + 10 HF + 3 H2O2 → 2 K2MnF6 + 8 H2O + 3 O2

KMnO4 + KHSO5 + KF → K2MnF6 + unimportant stuff
Might not need HF because oxone is an acidic triple salt and possible form HF from KF in solution

Substituting oxone for hydrogen peroxide
Would this work

Peroxide and permanganate decompose so maybe anyone what to try I have no fluoride compounds :-(

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Melgar - 15-6-2017 at 03:53

Peroxide and permanganate are kid of an exception, although peroxide does a similar thing with other oxidizers. Because they are losing oxygen in the +0 state, from an initial negative state, it's actually the oxygen being oxidized, and the other two being reduced.

Mixing strong oxidizers together is like mixing strong acids together, or mixing strong bases together. Most likely, no reaction is the EXPECTED result.

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AJKOER - 21-6-2017 at 07:09

See my comments at https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=71... .

Velzee - 7-7-2017 at 14:55

Quote: Originally posted by Melgar  
Quote: Originally posted by Velzee  
OP is referring to oxone not ozone.

I think the "ozone" was just a typo or a phone autocorrect thing. The second time it's mentioned AvBaeyer wrote "oxone", and so clearly understood what OP was referring to.


Oops, my apologies.