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Ashot - 20-10-2016 at 18:45

Hello fellow chemists, I accidently found this absolutely shocking video and I thought it is a good idea to share it with the community.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKzTy8OPZ6Y
It happened in Ukraine, Dnepropetrovsk, a tank of nitric acid was spilled in the living region of the city. Massive clouds of nitrogen dioxide were producing for a reasonable amount of time and wind was blowing directly towards the buildings.

But the most shocking moment is the people that were filming the incident literally inside the clouds of fumes. I believe they wouldn't do this if they knew how dangerous NO2 gas!

Also, I believe that amount of NO2 released in the atmosphere will result in acid rain, how destructive it will be for the ecology I am not too sure, but there will be long-term consequences without a doubt.

In any case, according to the video description, the truck driver disappeared as soon as it happened, so I believe this chemical was owned illegally and knowing that fuming nitric acid is mainly used in pyrotechnic this whole situation is a little suspicious.

violet sin - 20-10-2016 at 19:36

That is a LOT of NO2, wow. Could it have been a chemical incompatibility with the tank? The nitric acid is pouring out by the bucket load... Running down the street and all. I would have to guess the big conifer tree is toast for sure; having been engulfed in such a dense cloud for so long.

Ashot - 20-10-2016 at 19:53

I wouldn't be surprised if the were transporting the acid in the incompatible tank. Knowing that the driver left without reporting the spillage of a highly dangerous chemical.

greenlight - 20-10-2016 at 21:09

That is a shitload of No2, yeah something must be wrong if the driver bailed like that.
The tank looks like stainless steel which shouldn't react like that.
Maybe the tank got a leak and the No2 is from the acid reacting with the rest of the not so compatible metal parts and grease on the body and chassis of the truck.

[Edited on 21-10-2016 by greenlight]

Sulaiman - 21-10-2016 at 03:41

that is awful .... :o
not even one hobby chemist with a bucket ... :P

hissingnoise - 21-10-2016 at 04:45

Deja vu all over again?

http://www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=64774#...


aga - 21-10-2016 at 13:18

More like a test to see if any of the residents remember anything at all.

I'd like to rant and rage about trolls & identities but promised not to.

AJKOER - 30-10-2016 at 00:54

I suspect that the truck bed is composed of an Aluminum alloy as it saves weight and cheaper than steel, or perhaps it is an Al alloy tank.

It appears to have rain recently, which may be fortunate as with humidity any formed HNO3/HNO2 (as heavier acid droplets) may not be as completely deadly as NO2 gas, which may be able to more deeply penetrate into the lungs.

[Edited on 30-10-2016 by AJKOER]

unionised - 30-10-2016 at 02:11

There was a similar incident at a waste disposal site in the UK
http://www.icis.com/resources/news/1999/12/24/101550/uk-firm...
Much of the NOx was released when the acid reached the tyres.
I understand that the root cause was that the seal of the tanker wasn't made of the right (fluorocarbon) rubber.

NitratedKittens - 12-1-2017 at 12:08

Quote: Originally posted by Sulaiman  
that is awful .... :o
not even one hobby chemist with a bucket ... :P

That is the funniest thing i have heard in a long time :D
But that is a lot of nitrogen dioxide, does anybody know if it was fuming nitric acid or just concentrated?

Amos - 12-1-2017 at 12:23

Quote: Originally posted by aga  
More like a test to see if any of the residents remember anything at all.

I'd like to rant and rage about trolls & identities but promised not to.


...What?

tsathoggua1 - 22-1-2017 at 05:47

As far as the driver scarpering....probably quite a reasonable course of action in the face of a tide of nitric acid and NOx fumes. Great place to stick around and start a conversation over the phone to the insurance company:D