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NO2 leak

Tsjerk - 23-12-2015 at 11:37

Don't know what is going wrong here, but I'm happy I wasn't around. Does anyone know what is going on here?

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[Edited on 23-12-2015 by Tsjerk]

Magpie - 23-12-2015 at 11:52

That almost has to be a compressed NO or NO2 leak. It looks like winter there and I can't see a leak of ordinary 68% HNO3 making that much gas. Could fuming HNO3 put out that much of a plume?

DraconicAcid - 23-12-2015 at 11:55

I would guess that someone put nitric acid in a tank made of a metal that reacts with it. It may have been winter, but the reaction is exothermic and will accelerate.

Magpie - 23-12-2015 at 15:38

Perhaps it is not NO2 but Br2. What is the source of this video?

annaandherdad - 23-12-2015 at 17:55

Either way NO2 or Br2, it's awful. Those look like residential buildings in the background. Where was that?

Metacelsus - 23-12-2015 at 18:24

I bet that spruce tree is dead now . . .

DraconicAcid - 23-12-2015 at 20:55

No idea where that is- I'm not seeing anything distinctive. Could be Germany, could be Russia, could be Alberta (well, the buildings don't really look like Alberta, but...).

Tsjerk - 24-12-2015 at 02:17

I don't know what the source of the video is, I found it on 9gag... usually not the best site to find background information.

More leaking stuff! A couple of days ago in Mainz, Germany. 22 tons of CO2, no injuries because of the gas, only the driver of the truck got some frostbite from the the broken valve. Cool (hihi) photo though.

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article150271440/Mainzer-Inne...

bismuthate - 24-12-2015 at 07:14

To me it resembles the mixed nitrogen oxides that are released when HNO3 reacts with metals. Luckily it looked windy there.

mayko - 24-12-2015 at 07:41

I found this article from RT:


Quote:

A tanker truck carrying chemicals burst open in a peaceful neighborhood in Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine, covering the area with nauseous orange fumes. An estimated two tons of what appears to be nitric acid spilled out and evaporated.

The spectacular leak happened last week in a residential area just meters from a children's playground. A video filmed by a local resident showed the tanker, its driver nowhere to be seen, producing clouds of orange-brown fumes, which were blown towards nearby houses. The smell of the chemical fumes was reportedly felt kilometers away.

A fire brigade arrived on the scene and washed out the chemicals remaining in the tank. Local authorities assured the population the leak did not pose any danger to public health or the environment, but couldn't immediately confirm the extent of the damage. No evacuation was ordered.


There is concern that the chemical transported in the tanker was nitric acid, which can decompose into water, oxygen and nitrite dioxide at high temperatures or exposure to light. Nitrogen dioxide is a toxic gas varying in color from white to dark brown, depending on the temperature.



Pyro - 24-12-2015 at 09:59

Could be propellant for a rocket/missile. The Soviets used N2O5+fuel extensively for rocket propellant.

DraconicAcid - 24-12-2015 at 10:13

I doubt that N2O5 would be shipped in a tanker like that.

Quote:
The spectacular leak happened last week in a residential area just meters from a children's playground. A video filmed by a local resident showed the tanker, its driver nowhere to be seen, producing clouds of orange-brown fumes, which were blown towards nearby houses. The smell of the chemical fumes was reportedly felt kilometers away.


I've seen "children's playgrounds" in Ukraine, particularly in areas like that. Rarely used, a surprising amount of broken glass in the sand, benches that were last in good shape during the Krushchev era.....

Magpie - 24-12-2015 at 11:07

Quote: Originally posted by Tsjerk  

More leaking stuff! A couple of days ago in Mainz, Germany. 22 tons of CO2, no injuries because of the gas, only the driver of the truck got some frostbite from the the broken valve. Cool (hihi) photo though.

http://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article150271440/Mainzer-Inne...


That's an awesome picture. I don't understand why the driver was not suffocated.

aga - 24-12-2015 at 13:30

The driver had the Wind in his favour.

Maybe also the good sense to run upwind as well.

xfusion44 - 27-12-2015 at 15:03

Wow, it looks nasty, but fascinating at the same time... Reminds me of my nitric acid synthesis moments. Hopefully no one was injured from this. Also, the camera man seems to be pretty brave, standing like that, near such quantities of leaking nitrogen dioxide.

CuReUS - 28-12-2015 at 08:36

Quote: Originally posted by xfusion44  
Also, the camera man seems to be pretty brave, standing like that, near such quantities of leaking nitrogen dioxide.

or pretty stupid :P
as for the CO2 leak,let's just say christmas came early for some people ;)

[Edited on 28-12-2015 by CuReUS]

xfusion44 - 28-12-2015 at 15:17

Quote: Originally posted by CuReUS  
Quote: Originally posted by xfusion44  
Also, the camera man seems to be pretty brave, standing like that, near such quantities of leaking nitrogen dioxide.

or pretty stupid :P
as for the CO2 leak,let's just say christmas came early for some people ;)

[Edited on 28-12-2015 by CuReUS]


Yeah, but clearly, he wanted to get views, otherwise he probably wouldn't risk his life :D

Magpie - 28-12-2015 at 16:58

This might have been taken with a dashcam, not that this would give total protection. I understand that the reason we have so many good videos of the Chelbalyinsk meteorite is due to the high popularity of dashcams in Russia.