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Anybody know of colloidal magnet?

antimon - 22-10-2015 at 16:54

I saw a patent on a permanent magnet motor that used a solution of colloidal neodynium magnet in the design.

Have i gotten this backwards, or did the motor benefit from the liquid magnet solution?

j_sum1 - 22-10-2015 at 18:59

Can you link to the patent?

antimon - 30-10-2015 at 14:16

Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  
Can you link to the patent?


Sorry it took so long. I don´t have a link to the patent, but here is the place i read it.

http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter1.pdf

Thanks for the interest.

MrHomeScientist - 6-1-2016 at 11:26

This almost certainly refers to ferrofluid, not a "suspension of magnets".

It also almost certainly is complete nonsense. If the URL didn't give it away, on the first page it states that a magnet "polarises the quantum environment surrounding it". Throw enough big words around and people will believe anything.

IrC - 8-1-2016 at 12:27

The PDF you provided is one chapter from a book found using a simple search as PJKbook.pdf, “Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices”. It is a compilation of many devices by various inventors. Having never seen the fluid you describe, from the description it is not a Ferrofluid, but rather a colloidal suspension of small crystal units of NdFeB material which was never subjected to a magnetic pulse common to typical magnets constructed of such material, then broken up into particles in suspension in nonpolar fluids. Ferrofluid differs in that Fe particles are used instead of NdFeB crystal units.

In any case the file you uploaded speaks of "ShenHe Wang’s Permanent Magnet Motor", then provides little further information on it. Followed by going into some conspiracy theory issues followed by listing several magnetic devices unrelated to anything created by ShenHe Wang. Simple searching reveals ShenHe Wang's patent as CN1218329. Interestingly the patent does not mention the OP's thread title material, using instead terms like Ferro-Liquid, vibrating fluid, bowl of water. Many discrepancies in the OP's and other descriptions abound, all in all rather confusing to analyze.

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For those unable to read the patent:

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http://rexresearch.com/wang/wang.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiHw-KphoIM

I should add just google “Practical Guide to Free-Energy Devices pdf”. As it was around 49.4 mb I cannot add it here.


[Edited on 1-9-2016 by IrC]

IrC - 11-1-2016 at 23:00

If you want to study interesting magnetic properties and unusual motors, check out the metal Gadolinium. I was experimenting with various dopants in glow powders a few years ago and obtained a quantity greater than needed since it is always good to buy too much when it is a great deal. So the bulk of it sat in storage until I wandered across a video that seemed too oddly curious to not investigate. I had studied its properties but never thought about a thermal motor. Check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VonUp5Wicwk&feature=play...

I doubt it will ever equal a well designed motor but surely it would make a nice classroom demonstration of a seldom seen magnetic effect.

MAGNETIC GADOLINIUM PROPULSION GENERATOR

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadolinium

Thinking of building a DCM free drinking bird.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird

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