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Testing fot SnCl2

underground - 15-2-2015 at 12:09

As per the attached file there is a way to make some SnCl4 from SnCl2. It uses HgCl2 for testing any unreacted SnCl2, but i dont want to use HgCl2 because it is toxic and not easy to found. So is out there any other way to test for any unreacted SnCl2 ?

SnCl2 is easy to make, SnCl4 it is not.

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blogfast25 - 15-2-2015 at 12:52

The oxidation of Sn(II) to Sn(IV) is capable of reducing iodine (I<sub>2</sub>;) to iodide (I<sup>-</sup>;). So dropping a droplet of iodine tincture into your solution should work: if the iodine reacts away, chances are there's still a bit of Sn(II) left.

What you are preparing is a solution of hexachloro stannic acid (H<sub>2</sub>SnCl<sub>6</sub>;), not really SnCl<sub>4</sub>.

I've prepared this many times in the past by dissolving pewter in Aqua Regia, as well as the potassium and ammonium salts of that acid. Pyrolysis of K<sub>2</sub>SnCl<sub>6</sub> yields pure SnCl<sub>4</sub>.

Out of interest, what's your purpose?

This belongs in Chemistry by the way...

[Edited on 15-2-2015 by blogfast25]

underground - 15-2-2015 at 18:23


Quote: Originally posted by blogfast25  


I've prepared this many times in the past by dissolving pewter in Aqua Regia, as well as the potassium and ammonium salts of that acid. Pyrolysis of K<sub>2</sub>SnCl<sub>6</sub> yields pure SnCl<sub>4</sub>.

Out of interest, what's your purpose?

This belongs in Chemistry by the way...

[Edited on 15-2-2015 by blogfast25]


Can you be some more in detain of your SnCl4 to see if we easy can make it by your way ?



With SnCl4 i am going to make an Sno2 anode as long as SnCl4 decompose to Sno2 by heat. I has wondering if other tin compose can do that ( for example tin oxalate) but i guess if it could, it would be well known. I read somewere that you can do the same with an other way, but you need a reflux equipment, but unfortunately i do not have any.



Quote: Originally posted by dann2  
Hello,

I thought someone might be interesed in the exact procedure I used to obtain Tin Oxide coating VIA SnCl2

Conductive Tin Oxide coating via Stannous Chloride (SnCl2)
Most Tin Oxide coatings on Ti have been achieved via SnCl4 (Stannic Chloride) which is somewhat difficult to obtain and not very easy to make.
The following scheme works well and uses Stannous Chloride which can easily be made from Tin metal and HCl or purchased.
It is taken from J. Material Sci. Technol., 2010, 26(2), 187-192.
"Active Stainless Steel/SnO2-CeO2 Anodes for Pollutants Oxidation Prepared by Thermal Decomposition."
(The paper is two posts above)
The procedure requires a reflux apparatus which need not be very elaborate. The prodedure from the article is as follows:

The precursor solution of SnO2-CeO2 was prepared by dissolving 4.52g SnCl2:2H2O and
0.09g CeCl3:7H2O in 50ml Ethyl alcohol. Firstly, the solution was stirred at room temperature
for 30 min. Secondly, the solution was heated and refuxed at 80C for 5 h. And then, after
sealing at room temperature for 24 h, the precursor solution was finally formed, which was
light yellow and transparent.


Antimony or other compounds can be substituted for the Ce dopant.

Detailed description
2.5 grams SnCl2:2H20 was dissolved in 15ml Distilled Methylated spirits.
0.52g of a liquid containing 31.8% Sb was added. (The Sb liquid was made from Antimony metal + HCl + H202.)
The solution turned slightly milkey due to the presence of water. (It went clear when reflux started.)
The solution was then stirred for approx. half an hour at room temperature and then refluxed for 5 hours. At the end of reflux the solution was slightly cloudy.
The solution was put into a stoppered bottle and let sit 24 hours. At this stage it was very slightly yellow and slightly cloudy.

A piece of Grade 1 Ti that had been etched for approx. 2 hours in 12% HCl at 90°C was washed in clean water and dried with a heat gun. The Ti was then liberaly brushed with the solution and let drip dry for 5 minutes.
The Ti was then shaken to remove excess solution and dried using the heat gun. The Ti was kept moving while the drying was taking place so that puddles of solution did not form on any areas of the Ti.
This solution application and drying procedure was carried out twice more and the Ti was then baked in an oven at 480°C for approx. 7 minutes.
The Ti received three more coats of solution + bake and then three more coats of solution + bake (9 coats and three bakes total).
The Titanium was a deep blue colour when finished.
It was placed into a Chlorate cell and was still running OK after a week with 4.2 Volts accross the cell at an Anode current density of approx. 70mA per square cm.

Distilled Vodka (90% Ethanol + 10% water) was also used as the solvent instead of distilled Methylated spirits. When the Antimony liquid was added the solution went very cloudy with a large precipitation of white Antimony Oxide. The solution was refluxed and most of the cloudyness disappeared. This solution was also successful at forming conductive ATO coatings on Ti. Anhydrous Ethanol is probably best if you can obtain it.


Would F do as a dopant?

Dann2


Quote: Originally posted by dann2  

What happens when the Tin and Antimony Chlorides are refluxed in the Alcohol for the 5 hours?
Does some sort of Tin/Antimony Alkoxy compound form?
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Eg. from US 3627669
A solution of an alkoxy-tin compound was prepared by boiling under reflux for 24 hours a mixture of 15 g. of stannic chloride and 55 g. of n-amyl alcohol. Into the resultant solution were dissolved 2.13 g. of antimony trichloride.........
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Cheers

Dann2

[Edited on 4-10-2010 by dann2]


[Edited on 16-2-2015 by underground]

underground - 16-2-2015 at 02:43

It looks like tin oxalate decomposes to tin dioxide!! It is much more easier to prepare it with oxalic acid and Sncl2.

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blogfast25 - 16-2-2015 at 04:52

You don't need pure SnCl4 to prepare SnO2.

Simply add ammonia solution to your H2SnCl6 solution and Sn(OH)4 will precipitate. Filter, wash and calcine to SnO2.

Thermal degradation of SnCl4 to SnO2 is very problematic.

underground - 16-2-2015 at 06:45

What about the oxalate method ?