I just had an idea of experimentation to determine what chemical is the strongest when it comes to dissolving organics materials, until I realize
that purchasing all the chemicals needed might be quite expensive, not to mention the chemical hazards they represent. Instead, based on the good
reputation of SM forum, I ' m turning to you, forumers, with this pool, to get your opinions, preferably based on a bit of your own experimentation
[Edited on 11-2-2015 by Madscientist95]
[Edited on 11-2-2015 by Madscientist95]papaya - 11-2-2015 at 10:55
Strange first post, isn't it? Maybe you want to get rid of somebody's dead body, why should anybody give you instructions?Tsjerk - 11-2-2015 at 10:58
Not really an opinion is it? Then why a poll?SimpleChemist-238 - 11-2-2015 at 10:58
Were are you getting the bones and flesh?!Madscientist95 - 11-2-2015 at 11:00
that wouldn't be a practical neither a discreet way, however rest assured , i'm just curious, I just want to see the corrosion strenght of a couple of
acids on organicsMadscientist95 - 11-2-2015 at 11:01
[Edited on 2-11-2015 by gdflp]Madscientist95 - 11-2-2015 at 11:07
sorry I edited my initial post, to a considerably watered down version, an less focused on "living things etc" . Already tested some of these acids on
metals and nitrics + hydrochlorics worked fine.
[Edited on 11-2-2015 by Madscientist95]Molecular Manipulations - 11-2-2015 at 11:17
Sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide is a little better than with HCl (aq).
Is the body still alive, or have you finished step one?macckone - 11-2-2015 at 12:02
Sulfuric acid with hydrogen peroxide is the best.
Chromic acid would be about second best but is quite toxic.Zombie - 11-2-2015 at 14:13
If you wanted to burn / blow it sky high I suppose.
Either way... Out of sight, out of mind.
This thread is creeping me out.Pasrules - 11-2-2015 at 16:38
NaOH will leave nothing behind except the enamel from their teeth. I know this because a veteran had to fish out 2 sets of enamel after a pair of boys
fell in the caustic tank at work moons ago.
But since that isn't an acid I pick H2SO4SimpleChemist-238 - 11-2-2015 at 18:24
I agree with papya, Sulfuric acid and potassium permanganate will take care of the body... Zombie - 11-2-2015 at 18:44
SimpleChemist-238 - 11-2-2015 at 19:00
Don't worry, it will be fine,Amos - 11-2-2015 at 19:00
Yes yes yes, BASE for the flesh, not acids. Without even mentioning NaOH or Ca(OH)2, boiling sodium carbonate solution will easily remove the flesh
from bones, it's used in preparing skeleton specimens for labs. The bones, once freed from their meaty prison, can be burned, crushed, and disposed of
on their own, or one can treat them with sulfuric acid to make some white phosphorus!SimpleChemist-238 - 11-2-2015 at 19:02
!!! I did not know you can make elemental P from crushed up bones and H2SO4. Amos - 11-2-2015 at 19:38
!!! I did not know you can make elemental P from crushed up bones and H2SO4.
Clearly you've never visited this site's biggest thread, then(preparation of elemental phosphorus). Bone ash is largely calcium phosphate, which when
acidified with conc. H2SO4 yields phosphoric acid. If carbon is added to the phosphoric acid and the mixture is heated to white heat, gaseous
phosphorus boils out. That's a simplified way of putting it, anyway.SimpleChemist-238 - 12-2-2015 at 04:24
Thanks, I will read the thread! morganbw - 12-2-2015 at 05:03
Damn, with Zombie on this one quantumcorespacealchemyst - 12-2-2015 at 06:57
i read that the old source of phosphorus was from the bones of dead creatures,
(may still be?).kecskesajt - 12-2-2015 at 08:41
N2O5 + SO3 should be great.Metacelsus - 12-2-2015 at 08:56
What about Cl2O7? It will certainly destroy any organics it comes into contact with. FClO3 would also be an
interesting choice, as would O2F2.Broken Gears - 12-2-2015 at 10:33
This lovely fellow tried sulfuric acid and found that it failed to digest gallstones, which are largely organics (cholesterol+bilirubin) and
calcium salts.
Kidney stones, being calcium oxalate, might also be resistant even to acid-oxidizer mixes.
... hey, 'sup?quantumcorespacealchemyst - 13-2-2015 at 10:30
CaOH with some Na2CO3 seems to have taken care of the gummy pulp and stuff from my wisdom teeth.macckone - 13-2-2015 at 19:36
Bases are definitely best for removing the flesh from bone but actually dissolving the flesh requires an aggressive oxidant to destroy that pesky DNA.