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DIY Linac?

Carharttguy - 9-6-2014 at 12:39

Hello everybody.

After acquiring various radioactive metals, I'm getting interested in everything nuclear related. I read a lot on internet about DIY cyclotrons and the fact that tey're not too hard to build. But they have one big disadvantage: they can only accelerate particles that are charged, so no neutrons.

What about building your own Linac that is capable of accelerating neutrons? Is it possible, or total fixtion?

Anyone has a clue, experiences or an opinion about this subject?

Sorry for my English. Thanks

phlogiston - 9-6-2014 at 13:37

Neutrons cannot be accelerated in a LINAC either. Because they use electromagnetic fields to accelerate (charged) particles.

It is possible to make neutrons with a LINAC though (or accelerators of other design) by impacting the right particles on the right target, perhaps that confused you.

Carharttguy - 10-6-2014 at 01:52

Indeed, I was confused. Sorry about that.
But, the big question remains for now: is there a way to accelerate neutrons to collide with atoms at home?

Carharttguy - 10-6-2014 at 02:58

Indeed, I was confused. Sorry about that.
But, the big question remains for now: is there a way to accelerate neutrons to collide with atoms at home?

Oscilllator - 10-6-2014 at 03:18

So far as I know you cant accelerate neutrons at all, since they aren't affected by electric/magnetic fields. They get produced in nuclear reactions at a certain speed, and they can't be accelerated beyond that speed short of dropping them down a gravity well.

HgDinis25 - 10-6-2014 at 03:22

Nuclear Fission of Uranium-235 yelds some very energetic neutrons :D

Metacelsus - 10-6-2014 at 07:22

You could build an inertial electrostatic confinement fusion reactor (just barely within the reach of amateurs).

IrC - 10-6-2014 at 10:28

Quote: Originally posted by Oscilllator  
So far as I know you cant accelerate neutrons at all, since they aren't affected by electric/magnetic fields. They get produced in nuclear reactions at a certain speed, and they can't be accelerated beyond that speed short of dropping them down a gravity well.


Long have I wondered if this were 100 percent true, how do Neutrons manage to end up Spin polarized by use of magnetic fields.

http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2011/ph241/ray1/

www.google.com/url?q=http://e-collection.library.ethz.ch/eserv/eth:6592/eth-6592-02.pdf&sa=U&ei=d0uXU6LHPNO-sQTP9oCQCA&ved=0CCEQFjAD&u sg=AFQjCNFbe-0P3IsuPrJjuzjYSF2HabdhVA

www.google.com/url?q=http://orph02.phy.ornl.gov/groups/neutrons/golubandlamoreaux.pdf&sa=U&ei=d0uXU6LHPNO-sQTP9oCQCA&ved=0CBgQFjAB&usg =AFQjCNET8_ZE4LX-I5S_WkhH8-0EKut7NA

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[Edited on 6-10-2014 by IrC]

phlogiston - 10-6-2014 at 12:33

Interesting, I never gave that any thought, but I found the following site provides a couple of good descriptions of various methods to produce polarised neutrons:

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Polarized+Neutron...

neptunium - 12-6-2014 at 18:16

got a strong alpha source? got Beryllium? there you go ! neutrons!

or, are you trying to accelerate alpha particles made from helium atoms? now there is an in interesting chalenge for you!
how much are you willing to spend? fascinating subject nuclear physics but hum.... aint cheap!