Sciencemadness Discussion Board - Good universities for Energetic materials related subjects ?

Good universities for Energetic materials related subjects ?

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 5-10-2013 at 05:16

Does any one know good universities for Energetic materials related subjects ?

For example having an appropriate lab to make some energetic polymers and compounds ?

Dany - 6-10-2013 at 00:07

here are some universities & institutes for energetic materials research and development:

Germany: Prof. Dr. Thomas M. Klapötke, ludwig maximilian university of munich

http://www.chemie.uni-muenchen.de/ac/klapoetke/

Czech republic: prof., Ing. Svatopluk Zeman, DrSc., Institute of Energetic Materials, University of Pardubice.

http://www.upce.cz/en/fcht/uem/zamestnanci/zam-zeman.html

Singapore: Prof.Ang, How-Ghee, EnRI, Energetic Material Research, Nanyang Technological University.

http://www3.ntu.edu.sg/enri/.

United Kingdom: Dr. Alessandro E. Contini, Dr. Anthony J. Bellamy, Centre for Defence Chemistry, Cranfield university..

http://www.cranfield.ac.uk/about/people-and-resources/school...

USA: Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL), Sandia National Laboratory (SNL), Naval Air Weapons Station (NAWS) China Lake, Army Research Laboratory (ARL and many other...however, you must acquire a U.S citizenship to work in these Laboratory because your work there is related to weapons development and nuclear weapons so work need in most case a Q clearance (Q clearance to access highly classified information related to weapons both conventional and nuclear) these are some names for U.S scientist working on HEDM development:

Dr. Philip Pagoria (LLNL, organic chemist, synthesis of new HEDM)

https://www-pls.llnl.gov/?url=about_pls-scientific_staff-pag...

Dr. Betsy Rice (ARL, theoretician, working on quantum chemical methods for predicting important properties of HEDM like density and heat of formation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GftyIvDvqpw

Dr. Randall L. Simpson ( LLNL, development of new HEDM like new PBX formulation, nano-thermite, etc.. and one of the editors of Propellants, Explosives, Pyrotechnics journal)

https://wci.llnl.gov/fac/heaf/wrk_govt.html

Dr. Ruth Doherty (Working in the past on the developing of high energy bubble explosive composition for underwater application like torpedoes) here's a short bion of Dr. Doherty,

http://www.theforum2009.com/pdf/Ruth%20Doherty%20bio.pdf

Dr. David E. Chavez (LANL, Synthesizing and development of new HEDM formulation)

https://www.lanl.gov/newsroom/news-releases/2011/November/11...

Indeed this list is not intended to be exhaustive.

Dany.

[Edited on 6-10-2013 by Dany]

franklyn - 7-10-2013 at 14:01

www.nytimes.com/2007/07/03/science/03boom.html?_r=2&oref...
http://explosives.mst.edu

http://emrtc.nmt.edu/explosivescamp
http://emrtc.nmt.edu
http://infohost.nmt.edu/~mecheng/msexplosives.xml

www.sdsmt.edu/Academics/Events-and-Outreach/Youth-Programs/C...

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There are also many vocational private schools. Google " engineering explosives school "

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BobD1001 - 7-10-2013 at 15:07

Had this program been around before I went to Penn State for engineering, I definitely would have gone to Missouri University of Science and Technology. They have an explosives engineering degree there which integrates much chemistry, physics, dynamics and so on. http://explosives.mst.edu/ it has been featured in popular science several times as one of the most fun degrees out there

[Edited on 7-10-2013 by BobD1001]

Bert - 7-10-2013 at 17:12

Second the suggestion of the Missouri University of Science & Technology at Rola.

http://explosives.mst.edu/

flesheatingvirus - 15-10-2013 at 07:38

New Mexico Tech has more versatility for explosives than Missouri. (40sq miles of outdoor testing sites, with NEW limits in the thousands of pounds range).

I would examine the research going on at both in order to choose.

The University of Rhode Island is well known for their energetics chemistry program (Dr. Jimmie Oxley).

[Edited on 15-10-2013 by flesheatingvirus]

Missouri S&T Explosive Engineering Degree

Turner - 5-2-2014 at 20:37

Hi,

I am right now in the college searching process. I am interested in this explosives engineering degree from Missouri. Any out there who has done this or something similar? (Explosives Chemistry?) I would say that right now since about April I am very interested and fascinated by HE's (different materials, performance comparison, reaction mechanisms for the synthesis etc.) as well as chemistry in general and learning about the reactions which take place in the production. I wonder if this degree would focus more on the chemistry aspect or the physical use of explosives like in mining applications and what not. But since I have already invested as much time and experimentation that I have in learning/teaching myself, I may lose interest too quickly which is my worry.

Any thoughts?

[Edited on 6-2-2014 by Turner]

[Edited on 6-2-2014 by Turner]

franklyn - 6-2-2014 at 00:05

www.sciencemadness.org/talk/viewthread.php?tid=26506

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roXefeller - 6-2-2014 at 14:45

franklyn's link should help with schools, but keep one thing in mind, that is only opinion (and I'm taking a risk that I'll be flamed): The engineering degree is intended for you to be making your employer money. So if you are working for a manufacturer, you'll be focusing on yield improvements and better throughput. You'll almost forget about the good ol' days when it was fun to 'cook' stuff in the garage. If you are working on final use, you are trying to use less to get more bang. There you'll work on seemingly inane details that add up. The disposal industry will want to find cheaper, safer methods. And all of this will be fraught with red tape that you'll have to be mindful of, yet still be productive. The HE that is discussed 80% of the time here is OLD details, last century's patents, and industry will look at it as physicists look at Newton's theories, a good starting point. The new, designer stuff, yet to be patented, is graduate level work done by smart engineers or scientists. Technology degrees are good for nuts and bolts stuff, and they usually chuckle at the people who paid extra for the 4 year degree. They are usually implementing the schemes drawn up by the engineers. Science degrees (like explosives chemistry) will leave you working for the above mentioned graduate since you'll be working through the labwork to implement a strategy, and you'll be trusted and knowledgeable about the chemistry that is occuring. I've heard this described as being chained to the lab-bench. But its a good place to start if you want to be that designer graduate boss/slavedriver. In general, scientists love the minutia theory and engineers are forced with bastardizing that theory (and the scientists hard work) to make it work in real life (and be cost effective) when conditions aren't laboratory optimum. That's my opinion. My credentials (not that they mean much) are graduate and undergraduate mechanical engineering degrees with a professional license and 10 (jaded) years in industry. This isn't much compared to others lurking here, but hopefully this will make someone else give you better information to dispell mine. Flame on.

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 6-2-2014 at 23:44

Id suggest you to go to a better university but with professors in the field, USC has a group of professors that are interested in EM, the N5, C(N3)3 cation, and many azole, azido, and high nitrogen compounds are synthesized in USC, the university also hold the record for explosive with highest nitrogen content by weight [N5]+ [B(N3)4]- or empirically BN17, with >95% Nitrogen. However this uni's fees are pretty expensive. I applied to them last month and the answer will be out around march-april

However i might not go even if im accepted because I would rather use some of the money to by some chemicals.

Turner - 7-2-2014 at 06:48

University of Southern California? Don't you live in Dubai?

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 7-2-2014 at 12:19

Quote: Originally posted by Turner

University of Southern California? Don't you live in Dubai?

Well, I obviously can travel to USA to study.

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 31-3-2014 at 02:27

Dang! I didnt get into University of Southern California where there is a lot of EM going on.
However I also got into New york university and Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Which one should I go to? NYU seems like a better future for me, but I fear I can not put together a lab in the metropolitan area :p

Bert - 31-3-2014 at 05:14

Rensselaer. Go.

My uncle went there. If you want to BUILD rockets, it is the clear choice.

Want to write free verse poetry about the moral ramifications of space flight, while abstaining from Coca-Cola, vigorously greenwashing 3 times a day and forging ahead in the PC universe? NYU.

Or I may just be cynical.

Also, upstate NY vs. NY city is a matter to consider. I spent time in NYC every summer, it is my personal conception of hell on earth.

jjgoh - 31-3-2014 at 05:20

I was about to choose the college too. May I know is this consider a profession work after studying? What job can we find for next time?will it be chance for looking work?

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 31-3-2014 at 05:58

Quote: Originally posted by Bert

Rensselaer. Go.

My uncle went there. If you want to BUILD rockets, it is the clear choice.

Want to write free verse poetry about the moral ramifications of space flight, while abstaining from Coca-Cola, vigorously greenwashing 3 times a day and forging ahead in the PC universe? NYU.

Or I may just be cynical.

Also, upstate NY vs. NY city is a matter to consider. I spent time in NYC every summer, it is my personal conception of hell on earth.

Thanks! Guess what I found!

http://rrs.union.rpi.edu/

Thats it, unless I get into haverford colledge in which i am wait-listed, Rensselaer it is.

Dr.Bob - 2-4-2014 at 11:20

RPI is an excellent school and they strongly encourage undergraduates to work on research projects, independent research, and internships. If you like science, rockets, etc, it is great. If you like women, you will need to check out Russell Sage Women's College down the road, as RPI is still more male than female. ;-)

Vikascoder - 4-4-2014 at 10:42

I am searching for college related to explosives engineering subject I am from India but I can not find any college or university . I seriously need help for searching college where I can learn explosives engineering. I am very interested in this subject pls help me to find one . Pls also tell how to take admission in them

DubaiAmateurRocketry - 4-4-2014 at 11:04

Quote: Originally posted by Vikascoder

I am searching for college related to explosives engineering subject I am from India but I can not find any college or university . I seriously need help for searching college where I can learn explosives engineering. I am very interested in this subject pls help me to find one . Pls also tell how to take admission in them

If you have a medium TOEFL score of >80, and a SAT mark of >1500, you can go for Missouri University of Science and Technology

This university have good engineering courses along with one of the best explosive engineering in the world and it ranks top 100 in the US.

If you have a good TOEFL score >100, SAT >2000, and a good list of published article, won awards, certificates, etc,
you can go apply for chemistry in University of Southern California

USC was one of my dream school until I was not offered a place in undergraduate class of 2014. In my opinion, there are much more professors and atmosphere of energetic materials. There are countless papers I have read that was published by a professor from USC. It is really great! If you get in USC, go!

Vikascoder - 5-4-2014 at 00:28

Thanks DubaiAmateurRocketry iw I'll try my best in SAT

davinlab - 27-9-2017 at 20:36

Purdue University!

I'm Davin, I did my PhD under Klapoetke in Munich and my postdoc under David Chavez at Los Alamos. My research has been heavily focused on new energetic molecules.

I am one of the inventors of the molecule with ten nitrogen atoms in a row:
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ic200071q

One of the co-inventors of TKX-50
http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2012/jm/c2jm33...

Among many other designer energetic materials
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201608723/ab...
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/prep.201400224/ab...

I will be starting as a faculty member at Purdue this January, as part of the energetic materials preeminent team there:

https://engineering.purdue.edu/Energetics/

My research group will be focusing on new energetic molecules so if you are looking for a place to to graduate school in energetics, contact me.

We are also currently looking for a staff scientist for the energetic materials team. Apply at the below link if interested.

http://purdue.taleo.net/careersection/wl/jobdetail.ftl?job=1...

Here is the background we are looking for for the staff scientist position.

"Research Scientist – Energetic Materials – Purdue University

Purdue University seeks a Research Scientist to carry out research and administrative duties beyond the scope of individual students and post-docs in the synthesis, formulation, and characterization of energetic materials. Additionally, as Research Scientist, you will utilize your expertise to improve the technical expertise of the College of Engineering Pre-Eminent Team in Energetic Materials, and develop new research avenues utilizing existing and improved experimental resources.

• The successful candidate will have a Ph.D. in Science, Engineering or a related discipline with a strong background in energetic materials and two years of experience with synthesis, formulation, and characterization of energetic materials. In lieu of degree, consideration will be given to an equivalent combination of related education and required work experience.

Other key qualifications include:
• Extensive knowledge of energetic materials-specialized lab techniques, troubleshooting and problem solving skills.

• Discretion and independent judgment in all areas of research including choosing methods and strategies and avoiding loss of valuable research time and resources.

• Responsible and accountable for design of lab experiments."

[Edited on 28-9-2017 by davinlab]

Pulverulescent - 28-9-2017 at 05:58

Quote:

I'm Davin, I did my PhD under Klapoetke in Munich and my postdoc under David Chavez at Los Alamos. My research has been heavily focused on new energetic molecules.

I hate you, I hate you, I hate you!

Bert - 28-9-2017 at 05:59

That's interesting...

davinlab - 28-9-2017 at 08:33

Quote: Originally posted by Bert

That's interesting...

Here is a movie of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txa0fgIwiLA

I also edited the job post above with more description.

[Edited on 28-9-2017 by davinlab]

Metacelsus - 28-9-2017 at 11:59

Quote: Originally posted by Bert

That's interesting...

Or as we Minnesotans would say, "that's different."

Anyway, it looks like very exciting research (a few years earlier I would have wanted to join your lab, but now I'm mostly interested in more biological things).