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Car Shampoo Formula

Waffles SS - 24-2-2012 at 22:48

I am looking for Shampoo formula for washing and cleaning car body i tried special shampoo for washing car body that even did polish!
I think it should contain SlAS , coconut fatty acid diethanolamide ,Alkylbenzene Sulfonic acid,Triethanolamine but i dont have correct ratio.

I think there is better formula ;)
Also i found this:


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To get started in car-shampoo making, you will need roughly P3,000 in initial capital. You will need it to purchase the ingredients, utensils, and equipment listed below.

Raw Materials (prices may vary):

* 80 g Needle-type coconut fatty alcohol sulfate (CFAS), P129 per kg
* 840 g De-ionized water or distilled water, P20 per liter
* 30 g Coco diethanolamide (CDEA), P80 per 1/2 L
* 1 g Phenoxy ethanol, P550 per kg
* 2 g Ethyl alcohol, P130 per liter
* 10 g Emulsified carnauba wax, P250 per 250 ml
* Water-soluble dye, P23 per 125 g
* 4 g Fragrance, P375 per 120 ml
* 20 g Industrial salt, P10.25 per kg

Utensils and equipment:

* Mixing bowl, P500
* Plastic ladle, P35 to P50
* Funnel, P13
* Plastic jigger
* Weighing scale, P200
* 4 pcs. 250 ml-opaque bottles for packaging, P10 per piece

Here’s How

1. Pour the de-ionized water in the mixing bowl and heat on medium fire until it becomes steaming hot. With the use of a ladle, add and mix the CFAS into the steaming water. Using the needle-type CFAS rather than the powder type is preferred to give the end-product a clearer texture. Powder CFAS is usually used in making powder detergent; if used in liquid wash or shampoo, on the other hand, it would give the shampoo a cloudy texture.

When mixing the CFAS into the steaming hot water, stir slowly so the mixture does not bubble up. The appearance of a few bubbles is acceptable, though.

2. With the CFAS thoroughly mixed in and with the mixture still steaming hot, turn off the fire and remove the mixing bowl from the stove. Make sure that the CFAS is dissolved completely, then add to the mixture the CDEA, phenoxy ethanol, ethyl alcohol, emulsified carnauba wax, and the fragrance—in that order. Before adding another ingredient into the mix, make sure to mix each ingredient thoroughly into the mixture. (Because very few chemical shops sell emulsified carnauba wax, you may use plain carnauba wax instead; it sells for P500 per 1/2 kg.)

Set the mixture aside.

3. In a separate jigger, dissolve the water-soluble dye in water. The darker you want the shampoo to be, the more dye you should use. Once the dye is completely dissolved, add and mix it into the mixture you were working on.

4. Add the industrial salt gradually. The industrial salt serves as a thickener. The consistency of the mixture must be slimy or a bit thick. When suds start to form, it means that the thickening effect of the salt is taking place. Some 20 grams of industrial salt is enough to produce the right consistency for this process. However, before pouring in the rest of the salt into the bowl, it is advisable that you dissolve first a little portion of the salt—perhaps a pinch—into a small container holding the mixture. You have to dissolve a little portion of the salt into the mixture at a time, and check the consistency. Dissolve another portion until you attain the right consistency.

Excessive salt will make the mixture thick for a while, but the consistency would eventually revert to its original state. If this happens, do not throw away your mixture. Instead, make another bowl of mixture with the right consistency– slimy or a bit thick but not totally thick–using using the right amount of industrial salt, then just gradually add some of the inaccurately measured mixtures.

Once you are through mixing all of the ingredients, let the car shampoo cool down. When it gets cool, pour the mixture–it is now a shampoo–into the opaque bottles using a funnel. This recipe will fill four 250-ml bottles or two 500-ml bottles. The shelf-life of this product is two years.

What each ingredient does to your product?

* CDEA – foaming or suds booster
* Industrial salt – thickening agent, to make the product viscous
* CFAS – surfactant, the main cleaning agent
* Phenoxy ethanol – a preservative that is also used in cosmetics
* Carnauba wax – comes from the leaves of the carnauba palm. It is also use in cosmetics, polishing products, and baking.
http://www.mixph.com/2009/08/how-to-make-car-shampoo-small-b...






[Edited on 25-2-2012 by Waffles SS]

White Yeti - 25-2-2012 at 06:37

Why?!?

I've never heard of shampoo for cars. I thought we cleaned cars by leaving them out in the rain, not babying them with shampoo.

In any case, car cleaners have different requirements than shampoos for people, or cats for that matter. What I see here before me is a recipe that would be good for making shampoo for people.

You don't need as much surfactant to clean a car as opposed to a person. A person will naturally secrete fatty substances that must be removed via a surfactant. Obviously, a car will not secrete fatty substances. If you're really serious about making this "shampoo" I suggest you scale down your use of surfactant, which also looks like one of the most expensive precursors from the list.

Cut the amount in half, and experiment with the results, that's what science is all about.

AirCowPeaCock - 25-2-2012 at 08:33

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Quote: Originally posted by White Yeti  
Why?!?

I've never heard of shampoo for cars. I thought we cleaned cars by leaving them out in the rain, not babying them with shampoo.


I think SM should have a like button for posts..

White Yeti - 25-2-2012 at 08:56

I think it shouldn't.

The "like" button is a sign of the end of language and clear expression of complex thoughts. The "like" button should be eradicated from the interwebs wherever intelligent discussions take place.

When we lose our language, we lose everything.

Back to the subject at hand:


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Waffles SS - 25-2-2012 at 10:37

Thanks white yeti,
I didnt know how i can Emulsify Carnauba Wax!
I found below but it seemes i should find hemp seed butter and rose hydrosol for this purpose.really there is no easy way for Emulsify Carnauba Wax?We cant use Triethanolamine for Emulsify?



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Mix the oil, butter, floral water and borax in a glass bowl. Borax, a natural emulsifier, binds oil and water to create an emulsion. This phase is referred to as the "water phase" or "oil and water phase," of the soap and lotion making process.

Place the bowl in a microwave on high for three minutes. This heats the oil, water and emulsifier and allows the materials to mix together where it would otherwise separate.

Add carnauba wax to the other glass bowl and melt it in the microwave for three minutes.
Pour the melted carnauba wax into the bowl containing the hot water and oil solution. Beat the mixture as you pour it in slowly.

Mix the contents of the bowl with a hand mixer for five minutes. A foamy white emulsion will instantly form. Pour the liquid into an empty lotion bottle and let it cool to room temperature before securing the cap on it. Your carnauba wax emulsion is ready for immediate use as a skin cream or hair conditioner.

http://www.ehow.com/how_6873979_do-emulsify-carnauba-wax_.ht...






[Edited on 25-2-2012 by Waffles SS]

bquirky - 25-2-2012 at 11:41

hehe My car most certainly dose "secrete fatty substances" :)