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Alternate Naming for common explosives

AndersHoveland - 12-1-2012 at 13:40

Many of the common explosives have several different names, but many of these names are either technically inaccurate, cumbersome/impractical, or not in common usage. What do you think the best names for these common explosive compounds would be?

nitroglycerin
glycerol trinitrate ester
1,2,3-trinitratopropane

nitrocellulose/guncotton
cellulose nitrate ester

hexogen/RDX
cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine (CTMTN)
1,3,5-trinitraza-cyclohexane (TNCH)
1,3,5-trinitro-1,3,5-triazacyclohexane
1,3,5-Trinitrohexahydro-1,3,5-triazine

octogen/HMX
1,3,5,7-tetranitraza-cyclooctane (TNCO)

franklyn - 12-1-2012 at 17:40

The " trivial name " is the one of common usage and
not usually correctly descriptive as you point out.
Abbreviations of the canonical naming convention are
too cryptic to serve as a descriptor.

Glyceryl Trinitrate , Cellulose Nitrate ,
Although I like these above one should be aware that
" nitrate " is an ionic inorganic anion , and does not
accurately represent the covalent o- nitration which
replaces the H (hydrogen) of a hydroxyl radical with
a nitro functional group. Despite this it remains
inaccurately defined as forming a nitrate , hence the
corrected I UPAC convention 1,2,3-trinitratopropane,
or more indicative of it's origin trinitratoglyceryl.

1,3,5-trinitro-1,3,5-triazacyclohexane
( you omitted cyclonite for this )

In language anything which communicates a meaning
is valid.

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AndersHoveland - 12-1-2012 at 21:01

I just think trinitrazacyclohexane would be the best name for RDX. The name is not too long or awkward, is it?

Nitrate is also a technically acceptable name for non-ionic nitrate esters. For example, methylene chloride, which does not contain chloride ions. The equivalent of chloromethane would be nitratomethane.

For nitro groups, one is confined to using only the prefix, whereas with nitrite, only the suffix. Nitromethane, methyl nitrite.

[Edited on 13-1-2012 by AndersHoveland]

Pulverulescent - 13-1-2012 at 02:09

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I just think trinitrazacyclohexane would be the best name for RDX. The name is not too long or awkward, is it?

Cyclonite is the old name given it by Hale, or was it Bain?
Not only does it sound good ─ it describes it too!
Oh yeah, fuck RDX for a moniker!

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neptunium - 13-1-2012 at 08:31

picric acid should be on there as well...everyone knows what it is but i just wanted to put it out there

Pulverulescent - 13-1-2012 at 08:53

The word 'picric' has its roots in 'pucker' . . .
To pucker one's lips ─ sourness causes one's lips to pucker!

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neptunium - 13-1-2012 at 16:30

didnt know that! good one though!