Sciencemadness Discussion Board

A Muse...

zoombafu - 7-1-2012 at 19:27

If a powerful enough electromagnet is used, would it be possible to separate ions in a solution, such as they would be in electrolysis???




Is this possible? Or have I given my mind to troll science.

Bot0nist - 7-1-2012 at 19:53

Make a simple experiment using electromagnets and some different salt solutions.

Neil - 7-1-2012 at 20:27

Does a MRI de-polerize your nerves?



franklyn - 7-1-2012 at 21:08

Charged particles such as gas ions orbit within an applied
magnetic field. Say this is the direction N => S , then
negative charged species will orbit counterclockwise
viewing from the north in the direction of south , and
positive charged species orbit clockwise. This is how
a cyclotron and ion traps work. Separation of charged
particles using magnets has some industrial applications.
Particles however do not retain charge once contacting
the container surface. Capacitors store charge by
polarization meaning that molecules become stretched
in the direction of the applied electric field , there is no
separation into ions. A static magnetic field as applied
by a permanent magnet produces no electric effect
as you seem to imply in your drawing.

.

neptunium - 8-1-2012 at 00:46

check out the thread on Separating cations from anions by CrimpJiggler .
this has been covered this week

Pulverulescent - 8-1-2012 at 01:53

How old are you zoombafu, if you don't mind me asking?

P

zoombafu - 8-1-2012 at 12:07

Quote: Originally posted by neptunium  
check out the thread on Separating cations from anions by CrimpJiggler .
this has been covered this week


Thank you for that reference, I somehow missed that thread.


Quote:

How old are you zoombafu, if you don't mind me asking?


Here is a minor mathematical riddle for you.

x= 1 x (2 - 3) - 7 x 2 + 0 + (9 x 2 + 7) - 1 + 3 x 3 + 0

Pulverulescent - 8-1-2012 at 14:21

Quote:

Here is a minor mathematical riddle for you.
x= 1 x (2 - 3) - 7 x 2 + 0 + (9 x 2 + 7) - 1 + 3 x 3 + 0

Jeez! Don't you know it's Sunday --- and I'm back on the booze? :D:(:o

P

watson.fawkes - 8-1-2012 at 17:21

Quote: Originally posted by Pulverulescent  
Don't you know it's Sunday --- and I'm back on the booze?
It must have been a long week. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1+x+(2+-+3)+-+7+x+2+%2B+0+%2B+(9+x+2+%2B+7)+-+1+%2B+3+x+3+%2B+0%3D

Pulverulescent - 9-1-2012 at 02:08

I'm losing weekends already, watson!
I draw the 'line', though, at purloined 'women's things' . . .
Calculations? I'm just waaay too lazy, but thanks!

P

franklyn - 9-1-2012 at 06:00

Quote: Originally posted by franklyn  
Say this is the direction N => S , then negative charged species will orbit counterclockwise viewing
from the north in the direction of south , and positive charged species orbit clockwise.

C O R R E C T I O N
negative particles orbit CLOCKWISE
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/cyclot.h...

positive particles orbit COUNTERCLOCKWISE
http://education.jlab.org/glossary/cyclotron.html

suprised no one caught the switch

.