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Boiling metals Copper and Aluminum

metalresearcher - 25-12-2011 at 03:48

I tried to heat these metals in an electric arc to boil them.

And it succeeded ....

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plante1999 - 25-12-2011 at 04:42

It is not an good idee to boil metal , you can catch the metal fume fever.

Neil - 25-12-2011 at 05:21

Normally it is zinc which gives you fume fever. Copper gives you a case of coughing, hacking, sore throat and death. To be honest I can't recall what boiling Al does to your lungs, other then it would be likely be Al2O3 by the time it made it to you, a nuance dust IIRC.

In ether case we hope your wearing the correct protection yadda yadda.

I'm missing the point of your latest posts, where's the mustard? er science? Or are you just experimenting to see what does what? Are you playing with boiling point depression or alloys?

blogfast25 - 25-12-2011 at 05:39

Hmmm... these metals should condense quite quickly in the cold, surrounding air, subjecting the experimenter possibly to fine oxidised metal powder, not to metal vapour. Zinc has the lowest BP though... A good quality dustmask is the least kind of protection needed, at a minimum, in all cases.

Neil - 25-12-2011 at 05:55

True, though the copper stays metallic for a while. CuO/Al will nicely Cu plate; grass, twigs, the inside of your lungs, acorns, plastics etc.

The copper is a toxic heavy metal irritant

Zinc oxide triggers a massive immune response (some times) - the fume fever is the result.

cyanureeves - 25-12-2011 at 06:04

can you alloy both metals?

Neil - 25-12-2011 at 07:14

aluminium bronze.

neptunium - 29-12-2011 at 09:00

Al boil at 2740 K ....impressive ...although an arc welder can reach 10 000 F a TIG can get it up to 35 000 F ! Al is easy target..try tungsten at 5930 K !! have fun!