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What happened to NileRed, NurdRage, Chemplayer and Doug?

Keras - 13-8-2021 at 07:01

Have they all walked away from chemistry? :p

Even a French-speaking YT channel (‘à fond les ballons’) has suddenly put up the shutters in the middle of a series of videos about phenol nitrations.

Weird.

ShotBored - 13-8-2021 at 07:14

Methinks they are casualties of YT's continued war on hobby chemists.

Keras - 13-8-2021 at 08:23

Quote: Originally posted by ShotBored  
Methinks they are casualties of YT's continued war on hobby chemists.


But they could’ve moved to some different video platform. They’re nowhere to be seen, really.

Belowzero - 13-8-2021 at 08:34

Some of them are members here so one of them might be able to personally weigh in!?
Bitchute is quite like youtube in the old days, I know some have moved there or use it as a 'backup'.

I am still not sure if I should continue my channel on yt because of legal reasons and censorship issues.
It's a lot of work and the risk of getting kicked off anytime is high but it is where the traffic is at..
Building a brand new channel on alternative platforms is almost impossible atm.
YT will go the way of the dinosaur once the only non offensive content consists of cat videos..


[Edited on 13-8-2021 by Belowzero]

ShotBored - 13-8-2021 at 09:39


Quote:

YT will go the way of the dinosaur once the only non offensive content consists of cat videos..


It's not about "offensive", it's about liability. YT isn't concerned about chemistry content-makers potentially injuring themselves in the pursuit of their hobby; they are concerned about impressionable people watching and attempting to mimic what they see, injuring themselves, and then suing YT for letting them view that content. I may not agree with YT's attack on hobby chemistry, but I understand it.

I know it's super duper cool nowadays to pretend like everything is the fault of the "offended, woke" folk, but let's be real about what actually drives corporate policies.

Syn the Sizer - 13-8-2021 at 13:23

NileRed still makes videos, just building yet another new lab, so is going slow, he still uploads shorts on his NileRed shorts channel.

Chemplayer has been kicked off YouTube and have a BitChute channel. They have a little story as to where they went on there I believe.
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/2vWmMgSEZ2jf/

NerdRage did a series on Nitric Acid a few months ago, and last thing I knew he was setting up a lab too.

Tom from Extractions and Fire had a little thing in one of his Extractions and Ire videos explaining a bit about it, but I believe why he quit is still a bit of a mystery.

There are other great channels though
PoorMans Chemist
Vibbz Lab
BackYardScience2000
FullModern Alchemist
And others as well.

Bedlasky - 13-8-2021 at 18:41

Tom from Explosions and Fire upload new videos. Latest video on his Extractions and Ire is two weeks old. He had few months pause because he don't have time due to study. But two months ago he start upload new videos again.

YT become more and more dicks. They even try to elict copy of your identity card to "verify your age". If you don't do this, you cannot see certain videos (for example Tom's video on tetrazoles). I don't know how in US, but in my country this YT demands are illegal.

[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Bedlasky]

Syn the Sizer - 13-8-2021 at 22:41

For sure, I should have mentioned him too, I was more listing the newer people, the ones the OP mentioned were the godfathers along with Tom of YT chemistry. Of course other godfathers UC235, Myst32 and others I haven't mentioned.

I have considered that if I make any significant videos, I will just host them on my web host for free, people can donate if they like, but I don't care if I get donations or not, but I don't really wanna use YT any further than I have.


[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Syn the Sizer]

Keras - 13-8-2021 at 23:27

Thanks for the input.

I was a bit disappointed with late NileRed productions. He seems to have taken a turn towards, say, ‘fun’ things – more physics than chemistry. I was expecting him to go into more intricate synthesis given he had such a great laboratory to work in, but he seems to have taken the opposite path, which is a bummer, IMHO.


Syn the Sizer - 13-8-2021 at 23:59

I do agree, he has the resources to do some amazing stuff, but he dehydrates MgSO4. Now his shorts are just remakes and reedits of his older videos.

Some people say it is because he is setting up his new lab, not sure. Though I did see somewhere that he was planning a major synth and it was another edible chem.

My fingers are crossed that it is something great and not another letdown.

Keras - 14-8-2021 at 00:21

I’m not sure what kind of better lab he can set up, really. Unless he has found that the luxury estate he’s been renting was too expensive, after all.

On the other hand, you can’t expect him to live off his YT chemistry videos forever. Especially also if he has to support whoever is working with him (his brother?).


[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Keras]

SuperOxide - 14-8-2021 at 18:00

NileRed hasn't left... But it seems like he's really taken down his experiments a gear or two. I mean his transparent wood one was neat. But his latest several are just basically old videos he's already done but slightly different (eg: his bromine one, or his grape soda from gloves, he's done both before), or he does silly stuff like dehydrating magnesium sulfate or "does cyanide really smell". I don't consider the last two very interesting (or even chemistry...), but I suppose they're low hanging fruit and he gets a lot of $ for them from patreon (which I am on his patreon.. so I guess I kinda paid for them, lol).

Oh, and he seems to be on a "NileRed Shorts" binge lately. So im sure those take a lot of time to make. They're neat, but I wish he would go back to his old videos :-(

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karlos³ - 14-8-2021 at 18:02

If you ask me, chemplayer did the right thing, and he was smart enough to notice what was going to happen a year or even two in advance.

E: *cough* bitchute *cough*

[Edited on 15-8-2021 by karlos³]

Keras - 15-8-2021 at 00:39

Quote: Originally posted by SuperOxide  
NileRed hasn't left... But it seems like he's really taken down his experiments a gear or two. I mean his transparent wood one was neat. But his latest several are just basically old videos he's already done but slightly different (eg: his bromine one, or his grape soda from gloves, he's done both before), or he does silly stuff like dehydrating magnesium sulfate or "does cyanide really smell". I don't consider the last two very interesting (or even chemistry...), but I suppose they're low hanging fruit and he gets a lot of $ for them from patreon (which I am on his patreon.. so I guess I kinda paid for them, lol).


I did too, but I’m considering withdrawing my support. That’s not very cool, but upgrading all his lab furniture and accessories like he did to merely capture how a beaker of water explode when you throw molten copper in it, or how make a bismuth knife… Not really the kind of video I’m after…

Keras - 15-8-2021 at 00:42

Quote: Originally posted by karlos³  

E: *cough* bitchute *cough*


Fortunately they were smart enough to also upload all their videos on the Internet archive site for safekeeping. That’s where I usually stream them from.

[Edited on 15-8-2021 by Keras]

SuperOxide - 15-8-2021 at 07:48

Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
I did too, but I’m considering withdrawing my support. That’s not very cool, but upgrading all his lab furniture and accessories like he did to merely capture how a beaker of water explode when you throw molten copper in it, or how make a bismuth knife… Not really the kind of video I’m after…

Glad I'm not the only one whos noticed...

I forgot about the molten metal into water video.. That one was pretty lame as well. Personally, I would think all the non-chemistry ones would go on NileBlue, and the actual chemistry related videos would be on NileRed, the channel that focuses on... you know... chemistry.

Honestly, I just get the feeling he thinks "Hey, I get paid from my patreons for _any_ video... lets start uploading some simple shit... Or just re-making previous videos I've already done and try to pass them off as new stuff" lol.

On his plastic gloves to grape soda video, he says multiple times "Ive never actually done this before, so I wasn't sure if it would work"... Dude, he has separate videos of every part of that synth on his channel (the anthranilic acid one got taken down, but still). So saying he hasn't done any part of that step is silly. It was identical, just on a slightly larger scale.

P.S. I do have to say though, I appreciate his cleanup videos. It seems like he sometimes gets some flack for those (or so I hear) because they're "boring", but I sometimes replicate his videos, and knowing how to responsibly clean up any toxic/poisonous side products help when im researching how to clean up afterwords. Plus, when other amateurs replicate his videos, they're less likely to just flush them down the toilet if they know how to do the cleanup.

[Edited on 15-8-2021 by SuperOxide]

Herr Haber - 17-8-2021 at 08:17

Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
I’m not sure what kind of better lab he can set up, really. Unless he has found that the luxury estate he’s been renting was too expensive, after all.

On the other hand, you can’t expect him to live off his YT chemistry videos forever. Especially also if he has to support whoever is working with him (his brother?).


[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Keras]


One where he can continue with the physics experiments: throwing things around the lab and breaking them.

Keras - 17-8-2021 at 11:18

Quote: Originally posted by Herr Haber  
One where he can continue with the physics experiments: throwing things around the lab and breaking them.

Lol, that’s a bit harsh but unfortunately true.

I have cancelled my Patreon support…


BaFuxa - 17-8-2021 at 13:12

Nile red is in it as a scienctainment show. I stopped watching him 2 years ago.

Doug was great, I always wonder what happened to him.

Nurd is looking for a job last time I checked.

Anyway, youtube is not the place for interesting chemistry anymore. You have to decide wether you want YT money or share and grow your chem skills with other chemists. Just develop elsewhere, it is just a matter of habit, and patience.

Bitchute is acceptable and open minded.




Bmoore55 - 17-8-2021 at 16:04

I think everyone is being a bit tough on NileRed, he is currently moving and expanding his lab so that makes it very difficult to put out “new” material. I think he is putting out repeats using the YT shorts to try and keep some income going while he finishes his now lab space. Chemplayer is trapped away from his normal lab due to covid, but I’m sure will be making a comeback once some of the restrictions of removed. In the mean time we still have the silly behavior and quality science supplied by explosions and fire to keep us entertained. He just has to finish that dang thesis…

kulep - 17-8-2021 at 17:46

Quote: Originally posted by karlos³  
If you ask me, chemplayer did the right thing, and he was smart enough to notice what was going to happen a year or even two in advance.

E: *cough* bitchute *cough*

[Edited on 15-8-2021 by karlos³]


Their youtube channel was taken down (3 strikes).

Nurdrage, Explosions&Fire, Chemplayer and Nilered are active on twitter

Syn the Sizer - 17-8-2021 at 18:23

Quote: Originally posted by Bmoore55  
I think everyone is being a bit tough on NileRed, he is currently moving and expanding his lab so that makes it very difficult to put out “new” material. I think he is putting out repeats using the YT shorts to try and keep some income going while he finishes his now lab space. Chemplayer is trapped away from his normal lab due to covid, but I’m sure will be making a comeback once some of the restrictions of removed. In the mean time we still have the silly behavior and quality science supplied by explosions and fire to keep us entertained. He just has to finish that dang thesis…


Chemplayer not making videos has nothing to do with COVID, they have not made videos since 2017 maybe early 2018 with one of them making the odd video the last while. In 2018 they were banned from YouTube and started a new channel on BitChute and reuploaded their shit.

this is a quote directly from their BitChute About page.


Quote:

In May 2015, two amateur-chemists decided to start filming their hobby and a journey of learning and discovery. Based at their secret island base location, they pieced together a 'lab' fitting into a small cupboard in a spare kitchen, and filmed over 150 experiments in a "series 1" spanning inorganic, organic and every-day household chemistry.

In mid-2017 the pair sadly departed company to different corners of the world, with one intrepid experimenter determined to keep on the work with occasional videos. They vowed to come together again one day to do "series 2".

Their popular but controversial YouTube channel "ChemPlayer" was banned in April 2018 for crimes against narration and for the gratuitous manufacture of chocolate cake, but has since moved here to BitChute for your continued enjoyment.

The journey continues!


and this is their BitChute channel.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/2vWmMgSEZ2jf/

Quote: Originally posted by kulep  


Nurdrage, Explosions&Fire, Chemplayer and Nilered are active on twitter


ChemPlayer pops in here occasionally too.



Syn'


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Keras - 17-8-2021 at 22:38

Quote: Originally posted by Bmoore55  
I think everyone is being a bit tough on NileRed, he is currently moving and expanding his lab so that makes it very difficult to put out “new” material.


I'm not sure why he needs an upgraded lab. The premises he worked in during his last videos were already more than luxurious (unless he had a spat with his neighbours). I have cancelled my support, but if he resumes releasing quality videos, I'm more than willing to back him again.

karolus28 - 18-8-2021 at 05:56

Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky  

YT become more and more dicks. They even try to elict copy of your identity card to "verify your age". If you don't do this, you cannot see certain videos (for example Tom's video on tetrazoles). I don't know how in US, but in my country this YT demands are illegal.

[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Bedlasky]


There is a way though. I have the same shit happening but I use youtubensfw.com . So basically when you're on an age restricted video, you just add "nsfw" to the url, click enter and it will redirect you to that site. After you click the link below the video should play. The problem is that sometimes the video won't play no matter what you do and the devs don't seem to be able to do anything either.

On a side note, some time ago I made a new account to see if yt will let me watch normally(some people don't have the block, so I thought that yt is doing some beta testing like one group gets the "feature" and the other doesn't), but I had the block anyway, though after some time It just... let me watch the videos without verification

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MidLifeChemist - 18-8-2021 at 06:40

>>What happened to NileRed, NurdRage, Chemplayer and Doug?

Nurdrage has always taken long breaks. Like Doug and Chemplayer, he's probably getting busy with life, work, family, etc.

Regarding NileRed's "new lab", like others have said, he already has the best possible lab you could want for chemistry. If he is moving, it is either because his landlord did not renew the lease, or because he wants to do more general science / less chemistry and needs a different kind of space for what he has planned.

Syn the Sizer - 18-8-2021 at 10:19

Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
Quote: Originally posted by Bmoore55  
I think everyone is being a bit tough on NileRed, he is currently moving and expanding his lab so that makes it very difficult to put out “new” material.


I'm not sure why he needs an upgraded lab. The premises he worked in during his last videos were already more than luxurious (unless he had a spat with his neighbours). I have cancelled my support, but if he resumes releasing quality videos, I'm more than willing to back him again.


To be honest I have only heard this through word of mouth. Several people say he is working on his new lab but I have never been shown evidence of it. Not saying it isn't true as I have not really followed NileRed for some time now but if anybody actually has evidence of why he needed to upgrade is already amazing lab would be nice.

The only thing I could possibly see as why is maybe zoning issues and he was forced to move. Or as MidLifeChemist said, maybe lease renewal issue or new scene.

SuperOxide - 18-8-2021 at 20:40

Quote: Originally posted by Syn the Sizer  
Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
Quote: Originally posted by Bmoore55  
I think everyone is being a bit tough on NileRed, he is currently moving and expanding his lab so that makes it very difficult to put out “new” material.


I'm not sure why he needs an upgraded lab. The premises he worked in during his last videos were already more than luxurious (unless he had a spat with his neighbours). I have cancelled my support, but if he resumes releasing quality videos, I'm more than willing to back him again.


To be honest I have only heard this through word of mouth. Several people say he is working on his new lab but I have never been shown evidence of it. Not saying it isn't true as I have not really followed NileRed for some time now but if anybody actually has evidence of why he needed to upgrade is already amazing lab would be nice.

The only thing I could possibly see as why is maybe zoning issues and he was forced to move. Or as MidLifeChemist said, maybe lease renewal issue or new scene.


Evidence? Here ya go

I almost signed up to be a patreon, but it said he gets almost $7,500 per creation... Which is awesome, but I would think he could stop worrying about getting demonetized on YT at that point and go back to some of his own stuff... You know, chemistry. lol.

But like stated above - he's just a scienctainment channel now. Seems like a cool dude (seen him on William Osmans channel, Explosions&Fire, and a few others), but there's just no doubt that his channel seems to get more boring with the more money he makes, lol.

P.S. I hope this doesn't come off as me being jealous of his awesome old lab, and whatever his new one will be. He's done a lot of work, and has earned the support he gets from his patreons. I honestly think its amazing that he was able to get as far as he is. It just sucks that the "new" NileRed is more basic physics demonstrations, recycling old videos, or throwing glassware around. Very little chemistry. It does go to show that it's not the lab that made his channel great, it was the content. Some of his best videos were filmed in his garage.

[Edited on 19-8-2021 by SuperOxide]

Syn the Sizer - 18-8-2021 at 20:51

Quote: Originally posted by SuperOxide  

Evidence? Here ya go


Awesome man, thanks, I haven't watched many of his videos for some time so missed that.

Triflic Acid - 19-8-2021 at 06:00

I agree that some of his best videos were when he was working in his garage. I mean, I guess we are all biased, given that we all work exclusively in our garages, but back then his audience was mostly chemists. Now, he has to give content that the majority of people will want to watch, in order to get money.

SuperOxide - 19-8-2021 at 18:17

Quote: Originally posted by karolus28  
There is a way though. I have the same shit happening but I use youtubensfw.com . So basically when you're on an age restricted video, you just add "nsfw" to the url, click enter and it will redirect you to that site. After you click the link below the video should play.

... Well that's pretty awesome.

I get age restricted stuff a lot, but I never remember having to give anything to actually verify my age. I think YT accounts are linked to Gmail accounts now, right? Maybe that's why. I mean I never had to verify my age on my Gmail account either, but I've been using it for so long, maybe it just automatically assumes I'm of age, lol.

Keras - 20-8-2021 at 01:20

Quote: Originally posted by SuperOxide  
I think YT accounts are linked to Gmail accounts now, right?


They certainly are. Google is smart enough to link both sides.

Also, I never got any age check either.

As for NileRed, I regret his pandering to a less demanding public. I suppose he could shoot mainstream ‘low-quality’ videos while still maintaining a stream of high-end chemistry videos.

SuperOxide - 20-8-2021 at 04:40

Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
As for NileRed, I regret his pandering to a less demanding public. I suppose he could shoot mainstream ‘low-quality’ videos while still maintaining a stream of high-end chemistry videos.

He'd rather spend his time filming the "shorts", lol.

karolus28 - 20-8-2021 at 06:13

Honestly, the "shorts" stuff is well.. not the best thing he made, but he's at the "top" of youtube, milliions of subscribers. If you're a big youtuber, yt has requirements for you, they want you to post regularly, if you don't do that, they might as as well cut you off and limit your views. So they want you to post a lot of shorts and make them money. Also these small videos he makes go aaalll the way to tiktok, so he's gathering a new(I assume giant) audience full of "normies" as the redditors call it.

SuperOxide - 20-8-2021 at 10:23

Quote: Originally posted by karolus28  
Honestly, the "shorts" stuff is well.. not the best thing he made, but he's at the "top" of youtube, milliions of subscribers. If you're a big youtuber, yt has requirements for you, they want you to post regularly, if you don't do that, they might as as well cut you off and limit your views. So they want you to post a lot of shorts and make them money. Also these small videos he makes go aaalll the way to tiktok, so he's gathering a new(I assume giant) audience full of "normies" as the redditors call it.


But this goes back to the patreon stuff, if he really earns over $7k/video, then you would think the requirements of YT would be less important and the quality of the chemistry would be what he concentrates on. Just my opinion.

Praxichys - 14-9-2021 at 11:27

Doug is alive and well, just busy.

valeg96 - 21-9-2021 at 01:45

Keras and SuperOxide: if you ever made a purchase on the web linked to that email, google knows your identity and that's why you don't have to prove your age. That's unfortunate because this restriction makes all alt accounts useless, if you have to submit an ID or payment info.

Also, glad to see people sharing my distaste in videos where NileRed throws stuff around to make fun videos or smashes stuff. I remember talking with some fellow chemists about this back when he started getting very mainstream and being accused of being envious. I just don't like people throwing stuff around for fun, and for years I seemed the odd one out.

Also, glad to hear Doug is fine. His videos were some of the best around!

[Edited on 21-9-2021 by valeg96]

stamasd - 23-9-2021 at 08:49

NurdRage and E&F are the only ones I'm still actively following... Hopefully NR comes back soon. I always found his videos the most interesting and useful of the whole bunch. I've watched all of ChemPlayer's material several times and I hope they come back and make more at some point, but after such a long time I'm kinda losing hope.

(edit) ah and another one I have discovered not long ago and which I like is PoorMansChemist https://www.youtube.com/c/PoorMansChemist/videos

[Edited on 23-9-2021 by stamasd]

SuperOxide - 2-10-2021 at 09:43

Quote: Originally posted by stamasd  
NurdRage and E&F are the only ones I'm still actively following... Hopefully NR comes back soon. I always found his videos the most interesting and useful of the whole bunch. I've watched all of ChemPlayer's material several times and I hope they come back and make more at some point, but after such a long time I'm kinda losing hope.

(edit) ah and another one I have discovered not long ago and which I like is PoorMansChemist https://www.youtube.com/c/PoorMansChemist/videos


Yes, I feel the exact same way. PMC is pretty awesome as well, even though he feels it's important to start every video with some political rant >_<

Syn the Sizer - 2-10-2021 at 13:34

I do really like PoorMansChemist, hell, I run his Discord server for him. He himself is political in his videos but we do not allow politics in his Discord server.

Fyndium - 5-10-2021 at 11:43

The golden rule number one: never mix in politics, unless you run a politics channel, podcast or whatever that is based on ranting about stuff.

You really don't have to rant about how the big bad gov has banned x and y, instead just do a video how to make them. You can send a message and your viewers will agree with you without ever saying it out loud.

MichaelBijanAfghani - 15-11-2021 at 10:22

it seems like YouTube hobby chemists don't last very long. It's such a hard and time-consuming and expensive way to be a YouTuber, they burn out and/or get too busy with life, let alone manage to post a new video every week.

Michael Bijan Afghani

macckone - 15-11-2021 at 10:59

I prefer nurdrage, nilered and E&F.
PMC has good content but the politics is hard to get past.
Particularly the covid crud, which is anti-science.

ps. doug is good too.

[Edited on 15-11-2021 by macckone]

stoichiometric_steve - 15-11-2021 at 12:05

Quote: Originally posted by macckone  

PMC has good content but the politics is hard to get past.


that dude is just top level stupid.

i once knew an egyptian coptic ordthodox christian, a researcher with a PhD in medicine and pharmacology studying the influence of Fluoroquinolone antibiotics on pancreatic cells, really a bright guy. once over lunch talk somehow the topic of evolution came up and it turns out he's a creationist as well. i asked him about how human fetuses at various stages of development somehow look like reptiles/aquatic animals etc. and if it wasn't at least a clue towards proving the concept of evolution right, and he outright denied that fetuses even do that and any photographic evidence of that is absolutely fake. :o :o

[Edited on 15-11-2021 by stoichiometric_steve]

SuperOxide - 18-11-2021 at 19:58

Quote: Originally posted by stoichiometric_steve  
Quote: Originally posted by macckone  

PMC has good content but the politics is hard to get past.


that dude is just top level stupid....

Ah man, idk about that. I mean I'm no genius or anything, but he seems very smart to me, and I learn a lot watching his videos.
Regarding his politics, even though I agree with most (not all) of his political views, it's a little tiring to hear politics come from every direction, then get them even from there. I suppose from his perspective he has a platform and political views he feels are important enough to put on a chemistry channel, but from my standpoint as a viewer, I wish he would at least keep the politics to a minimum.
But... he can do with it as he wants :-) Im sure he knows how people feel about it.

Ubya - 19-11-2021 at 04:45

About NileRed, it is just a behaviour i noticed in many channels.
They start small, gather a nice niche, doing specific out of the ordinary stuff. Their quality increases and they start to get more subscribers/donators.
The pool of people interested in that kind of stuff is pretty limited though, so to expand and get more views/subs/patreons they start making videos on "normie" subjects. The pool of normies is a few orders of magnitude greater than us, so it isn't profitable anymore to work a few weeks to make a single video that would be watched by maybe 300k people, once they honed their style they can get millions of views out of a single video that took them a few days to make.

My best example is The King Of Random. I subscribed on his 5th video probably, he had cool projects and shoot them in a professional way. With the growing of views and subs each video got dumber and dumber, and in the end i just ignored every video he/they poster. I unsubscribed the channel the year before his death, and now the channel isn't any better.

Nurdrage oscillated between "normie stuff" and cool projects, i think his idea was to get enough money from the simple and hopefully viral videos to fund his more scientific and interesting ones.

I can see why one would feel down seeing the video they worked on for weeks getting 50k views, while the video they shot for shits and giggles got 3mil views.
If you have passion and a job, you can do whatever you want, if youtube is your job, you need to produce something that earns you money.

Big youtubers simply can't do it for passion anymore

Before anyone says that patreon gets you out of the youtube ads policy, giving you more freedom to do whatever you want, eh yes and no, people are greedy, 10k a month for shooting simple stuff is still better than 10k a month while busting your ass off

Keras - 20-11-2021 at 02:08

Quote: Originally posted by Ubya  
About NileRed, it is just a behaviour i noticed in many channels.
They start small, gather a nice niche, doing specific out of the ordinary stuff. Their quality increases and they start to get more subscribers/donators.
The pool of people interested in that kind of stuff is pretty limited though, so to expand and get more views/subs/patreons they start making videos on "normie" subjects. The pool of normies is a few orders of magnitude greater than us, so it isn't profitable anymore to work a few weeks to make a single video that would be watched by maybe 300k people, once they honed their style they can get millions of views out of a single video that took them a few days to make.
[…]


Yeah, I quite agree. I’m just wondering what NileRed's is living off these days, given that he outputs videos at a *very* slow rate.

Sic transit gloria mundi, as the Romans used to say…

[Edited on 20-11-2021 by Keras]

Bedlasky - 20-11-2021 at 09:29

Few months ago I came around a channel Applied science. And I must recommended this one. He doesn't post frequently (cca 1 video per 2 months), but quality of videos is really good. He always pick some very interesting topic.

https://www.youtube.com/c/AppliedScience/videos

macckone - 30-11-2021 at 10:42

nurdrage posted a couple of days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLEo57DXgiE

SuperOxide - 30-11-2021 at 16:11

Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky  
Few months ago I came around a channel Applied science. And I must recommended this one. He doesn't post frequently (cca 1 video per 2 months), but quality of videos is really good. He always pick some very interesting topic.

https://www.youtube.com/c/AppliedScience/videos


I also can't recommend his channel enough.. He has some amazing videos. He has one where he built a mass spectrometer from an old popular science magazine article, definitely my favorite.

DIY mass spectrometer measures potassium in dietary salt substitute

Hes probably one of the best science related YT channels, I just didn't include him in this list because he only has a few chemistry related videos.

[Edited on 1-12-2021 by SuperOxide]

SuperOxide - 30-11-2021 at 16:19

Quote: Originally posted by Keras  
Yeah, I quite agree. I’m just wondering what NileRed's is living off these days, given that he outputs videos at a *very* slow rate.

Sic transit gloria mundi, as the Romans used to say…


That's for sure. I was on his patreon for a bit, and I did see he had more videos there, and I forgot how much he makes per a video, but it's something like $7k. I think his silly little "NileRed Shorts" are maybe to get more people attracted to his channel, then his old videos get them to sign up to patreon, maybe? Just speculation.

Jimmymajesty - 4-2-2022 at 12:42

Yesterday I saw a ball mill video on YT on milling aluminum, it was 15min of which 10 min was on safety that burning powdered aluminum is so bright it can blind you. What the hell...? Is this bullshit really required, who wants this? who cares?

Work is a different thing, there should be labels and rules, but YT is an entertaining platform nothing more.

SuperOxide - 4-2-2022 at 16:19

Quote: Originally posted by Jimmymajesty  
Yesterday I saw a ball mill video on YT on milling aluminum, it was 15min of which 10 min was on safety that burning powdered aluminum is so bright it can blind you. What the hell...? Is this bullshit really required, who wants this? who cares?

Work is a different thing, there should be labels and rules, but YT is an entertaining platform nothing more.


Im not sure I entirely agree. I don't think there's anything wrong with promoting safe practices. But the video you described seems to have gone overboard. I think the simple safety intros you see on Chemplayer, NurdRage, etc are perfectly adequate.

And while I did say I think that NileReds channel has taken a dive with the more traffic he gets, I really think his videos where he posts the cleanups are pretty useful/important. Not everyone that watches the YT videos is going to look up how to clean up responsibly or store your waste safely. So I don't mind those at all. I think he puts them on his NileBlue channel, which makes sense to me (that channel seems to be less chemistry, more of the day to day kinda stuff).

Syn the Sizer - 4-2-2022 at 23:01

Personally I like NileGreen lol, though the creator of this channel is pretty good and actually does his own stuff in the videos unlike Nile Pink who just hacks NileRed videos into a choppy not so funny short.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP2cNcC-2pqDRCFeFO4JLLw

Syn'

Texium - 5-2-2022 at 08:47

Quote: Originally posted by SuperOxide  
Ah man, idk about that. I mean I'm no genius or anything, but he seems very smart to me, and I learn a lot watching his videos.
Regarding his politics, even though I agree with most (not all) of his political views, it's a little tiring to hear politics come from every direction, then get them even from there. I suppose from his perspective he has a platform and political views he feels are important enough to put on a chemistry channel, but from my standpoint as a viewer, I wish he would at least keep the politics to a minimum.
But... he can do with it as he wants :-) Im sure he knows how people feel about it.
You are annoyed with it even though you don’t take issue with most of his viewpoints. Imagine how it must feel to someone who disagrees with most of it. Really renders it unwatchable. He seems smart when it comes to chemistry, sure. But he really throws his credibility out the window when he spends half the video whining about how “liberals are ruining science” instead of focusing on… science. Is he losing potential viewers/subscribers because of his approach? That’s hard to say. On the one hand, there are people like me who are put off by his pointless injection of politics into what would otherwise be good videos. On the other hand, I’m sure there are others who relish hearing his tirades that victimize the poor home chemist who is constantly suffering under the boot of tyranny (even as he freely posts videos of his experiments performed from his well-stocked home lab), and maybe they would get bored and move along if he wasn’t feeding into their emotions like that. Either way, I’m sure he’ll never change, cause he seems to enjoy “owning the libs” at least as much as he enjoys chemistry.

Syn the Sizer - 5-2-2022 at 15:36

One thing I have to say about PMCs well stocked lab, is that was mostly bought with or are donations.

I used to run his Discord server before I stepped away and basically left Discord period. I was becoming a troll like all the rest on Discord, but I digress.

He himself is not funding much out of his own pocket, that is from his faithful viewers.

I do understand how one can find the politics hard to get past, specially when you do not agree with it. Not that I agree with everything he says either.

Texium - 5-2-2022 at 16:26

Quote: Originally posted by Syn the Sizer  
One thing I have to say about PMCs well stocked lab, is that was mostly bought with or are donations.

He himself is not funding much out of his own pocket, that is from his faithful viewers.
My point was that he has the freedom to have such a lab. Doesn't really matter who is funding it.

Syn the Sizer - 5-2-2022 at 17:37

Ahh, now I understand what you are saying, it could be like the EU or other places.

MidLifeChemist - 6-2-2022 at 00:37

Quote: Originally posted by Texium  
On the other hand, I’m sure there are others who relish hearing his tirades that victimize the poor home chemist who is constantly suffering under the boot of tyranny (even as he freely posts videos of his experiments performed from his well-stocked home lab), and maybe they would get bored and move along if he wasn’t feeding into their emotions like that.


I've watched his channel a few times. Just to clarify, PMC tirades against YouTube cracking down on channels (including chemists like ChemPlayer), not the boot of tyranny against labs in the USA (there isn't any afaik, we can mostly do want we want here in the USA).

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with his views in this reply, simply clarifying what his "boot of tyranny" tirades are usually about.

Amos - 6-2-2022 at 05:48

The guy openly wears a MAGA hat in his videos. Don't even try to pretend he's not anti-government. There are probably a whole lot of other adjectives I could pin on him too after a few conversations.

[Edited on 2-6-2022 by Amos]

Syn the Sizer - 6-2-2022 at 14:17

I know the guy very well, I ran his server for a reason, he doesn't pick people lightly to do that. He definitely is not pro-government, but he is far from anti-government. He is pro freedom, but understands that government and law is absolutely needed.

He is a strong Republican supporter but far from a bigot. Honestly when people take the time to actually get to know him he is a real "Sweet Heart" as many would put it.

But I am not trying to get political by mentioning the government as politics is against the forum rules. We had to ban politics from his server too because it was turning into a full on war in the politics channel and damn does that get exhausting to moderate.

One thought, maybe he can do 2 videos, the full video and the reprise which is just the chemistry sans the politics.

Edit:

BTW, I know lots of Canadians up here who are/were Trump supporters.

[Edited on 6-2-2022 by Syn the Sizer]

njl - 6-2-2022 at 17:00

I'm disappointed Nile Red didn't make anything himself in his most recent nileblue video :(

SuperOxide - 6-2-2022 at 17:36

Quote: Originally posted by njl  
I'm disappointed Nile Red didn't make anything himself in his most recent nileblue video :(

I always thought his NileBlue videos were the more candid kinda videos, or cleanup videos (which I actually liked). But both of them are now just PBS level high school chem now :(

Syn the Sizer - 6-2-2022 at 19:04

Quote: Originally posted by njl  
I'm disappointed Nile Red didn't make anything himself in his most recent nileblue video :(


Yes, it would have been cool if he did it as a multistep synthesis ovr a few videos I least make a couple of the precursors to the the juice.

karolus28 - 7-2-2022 at 03:04

Quote: Originally posted by Bedlasky  

YT become more and more dicks. They even try to elict copy of your identity card to "verify your age". If you don't do this, you cannot see certain videos (for example Tom's video on tetrazoles). I don't know how in US, but in my country this YT demands are illegal.
[Edited on 14-8-2021 by Bedlasky]


I know this is kinda off topic and I already quoted this but a new, more universal method was revealed someone sent me furry videoss to me: just add "&has_verified=1" at the end of the age restricted video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTRneedbtjg ---->>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTRneedbtjg&has_verified...

Arkada - 5-6-2022 at 08:24

If you haven't seen it yet - check out ChemicalForce https://youtu.be/8hrYlhTYl5U
Cinematic slowmo of energetic reactions; rare shit you won't see anywhere else

SuperOxide - 5-6-2022 at 09:15

Quote: Originally posted by macckone  
I prefer nurdrage, nilered and E&F.
PMC has good content but the politics is hard to get past.
Particularly the covid crud, which is anti-science.

Im in the PMC discord server, and he announced today that he deleted his YT channel and will not be doing chem videos any more. Apparently it's not fun any more because.... politics. lol.

Quote: Originally posted by Arkada  
If you haven't seen it yet - check out ChemicalForce https://youtu.be/8hrYlhTYl5U
Cinematic slowmo of energetic reactions; rare shit you won't see anywhere else

Yes, ChemicalForce is amazing! I think ChemicalForce and Thyzoid are some of the best up-and-comers on YouTube.


j_sum1 - 6-6-2022 at 03:36

I agree. Thyzoid has been doing some quality stuff lately and at quite a remarkable rate. Really enjoying it.
Does anyone know if he is a member here?

Edit:
Seems he is, but not active and has not visited for a while.
Thyzoid

[Edited on 6-6-2022 by j_sum1]

Bmoore55 - 6-6-2022 at 14:14

I have seen a lot of Thyzoid's videos lately. He is incredibly prolific and I really like his work. I wish I could be as active as him with my account.

SuperOxide - 6-6-2022 at 14:50

Quote: Originally posted by Bmoore55  
I have seen a lot of Thyzoid's videos lately. He is incredibly prolific and I really like his work. I wish I could be as active as him with my account.


Yeah, I pestered him into getting a Patreon, which is pretty awesome. Definitely worth signing up.

vibbzlab - 21-8-2022 at 19:37

Do you guys remember someone in YT called 655piano. It was one of the first youtubers I met doing hobby chemistry .He had lot of interesting videos. But when I checked him after a long gap , 2-3 years ago none of the videos are seen in his channel. Now that I check him in YT , I cant even find his channel

[Edited on 22-8-2022 by vibbzlab]

vibbzlab - 21-8-2022 at 23:33

Quick update and edit to previous quote. I found that dudes YouTube ID. 655piano
https://youtu.be/x1AkhWqNiQQ
Here's a link to one of his videos. Do anyone know this person?

j_sum1 - 22-8-2022 at 20:25

Please no trolling or unfounded storytelling. I split the thread since the discussion on an intermittently active user had gone off the rails.

Lion850 - 22-8-2022 at 23:05


"Im in the PMC discord server, and he announced today that he deleted his YT channel and will not be doing chem videos any more. Apparently it's not fun any more because.... politics. lol."

Oh no! PMC's chem is my favorite.


Syn the Sizer - 1-9-2022 at 21:26

Quote: Originally posted by Lion850  

"Im in the PMC discord server, and he announced today that he deleted his YT channel and will not be doing chem videos any more. Apparently it's not fun any more because.... politics. lol."

Oh no! PMC's chem is my favorite.



Hey Lion850,

What's your user name in his Discord server, I was manager for a year before passing the torch off to David, When PMC shut down his YouTube he also was looking for somebody to take over the Discord or would be shut down and the past 2 years+ that we all put into the server would blink into non-existence.

Of course being the face of the server PM the Namesake, I took over ownership of his Discord, My name changes daily sometimes, I always went by Syn the Sizer before I left Discord for a bit, came back with the Account Name Jim Lahey as I started a Trailer Park Boys server, oif not some play on Jim or Mr Lahey, I usually have Syn' in my name somewhere like Grandpa Syn'pson, Syn'dee Lauper, Syn'gle for Life, Syn'ple Jim, my favourite is Anti Syn' as they are terms used in Chemistry for Anti and Syn addition, Anti Addition produces a Trans product and Syn addition produces a Cis product.

But I digress as I always do, hence the Grandpa Syn'pson name. None the less I changed the name of the server from "PoorMans Chemist" to "Outcast Chemistry" if you have not been around for a bit PMC is back in the server, I made him a Mod ASAP, as well he has a new channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEMe4pwYxWc0O4o7CpDYqEg

let me know who you are in his Discord server too.

As far as the politics comment goes there is a lot more to it, maybe one day ask him in the Discord server, he may explain a bit

Edit 1
Quote: Originally posted by j_sum1  

Seems he is, but not active and has not visited for a while.
Thyzoid

[Edited on 6-6-2022 by j_sum1]


He is fairly active in the Outcast Chemistry (Formerly PoorMans Chemist) Discord as Feuerfrosch1

Edit 2

Lion850, nm, I see now you were quoting SuperOxide, my bad

[Edited on 2-9-2022 by Syn the Sizer]

[Edited on 2-9-2022 by Syn the Sizer]

Syn the Sizer - 2-9-2022 at 10:09

I mentioned it in another thread but thought I should here too and elaborate a bit. PoorMan didn't actually leave YouTube because of politics.But there was an independent political argument that happened around that time.

He has always still uploaded to BitChute and Odysee, just slower due to life getting busy. The reason he left YouTube was the typical YouTube bullshit. As well His Organic Chemistry Lessons which were really well done used drug molecules as as the teaching tools. If you look through the Odysee and BitChute video lists you will see various videos lessons.He followed a text book to and shared the z-library link for all viewers to download.

PMC Returns
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEMe4pwYxWc0O4o7CpDYqEg

Original PoorMans Chemist
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/CLgwoqXAHT7I/
https://odysee.com/@poormanschemist:9


[Edited on 3-9-2022 by Syn the Sizer]

Bedlasky - 25-9-2022 at 10:21

I found really interesting chemistry channel on youtube. Really worth checking.

Chemiolis

SuperOxide - 30-9-2022 at 13:27

Quote: Originally posted by Syn the Sizer  
I mentioned it in another thread but thought I should here too and elaborate a bit. PoorMan didn't actually leave YouTube because of politics.But there was an independent political argument that happened around that time.

[...]

PMC Returns
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEMe4pwYxWc0O4o7CpDYqEg

I knew he wouldn't be able to stay off YT for very long. lol.

SuperOxide - 17-11-2022 at 13:29

Speaking of DougsLab, does anyone have any of his old videos backed up that they could share? Or know where to find any? I know he use to have a lot more videos, and I can find a few of them on other channels (like this one and the zhmapper channel), and in them he references previous videos and future videos. I get the impression that he had a lot more videos but maybe got targeted by the YT gods and got his channel deleted or something.

If anyone has any they could share, I would be very greatful.

P.S. I realize the zhmapper channel does have a decent amount of videos, but those seem to be mostly just experimenting with other things like an atomizer, a foundry, some electronics, etc. What I was hoping to find is more chemistry videos like what he has on DougsLab.

[Edited on 17-11-2022 by SuperOxide]