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Keeping Ammonium fluoride solution in a glass bottle

Lion850 - 2-6-2020 at 21:20

I have 500g of ammonium fluoride NH4F powder that I use to make metal fluorides by double displacement. But I hate working with the powder it seems to sublimate very quickly. Thus I want to keep some as a solution, probably 150g dissolved in 200ml water.
My question is, can I keep this solution over a long period of time in a glass thick wall reagents bottle? I read the ammonium fluoride solution will etch glass, but I don’t know if this is something to be concerned about.
Advice will be appreciated, I know near nothing of fluorine compounds.

[Edited on 3-6-2020 by Lion850]

DavidJR - 3-6-2020 at 01:33

Why not just use a plastic bottle?

Lion850 - 3-6-2020 at 02:12

I happen to have a few spare glass reagent bottles. But if necessary I’ll get a plastic one. I’m still interested to understand how long a glass bottle will last.

Sulaiman - 3-6-2020 at 03:14

Earlier today I was browsing and came across something that could be ideal,
ptfe coated hdpe bottles https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ptfe-bottle-food-grade-wi...
probably available via ebay, amazon etc. - I've not looked

Ubya - 3-6-2020 at 05:03

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw5-WQERbM

there's a reason if it is used to etch glass, because it etches glass. use a plastic container

DavidJR - 3-6-2020 at 09:44

Quote: Originally posted by Ubya  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw5-WQERbM

there's a reason if it is used to etch glass, because it etches glass. use a plastic container


That's ammonium bifluoride, i.e. NH4F . HF

Ubya - 3-6-2020 at 10:08

Quote: Originally posted by DavidJR  
Quote: Originally posted by Ubya  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRw5-WQERbM

there's a reason if it is used to etch glass, because it etches glass. use a plastic container


That's ammonium bifluoride, i.e. NH4F . HF


yup bifluoride is the one commonly used to etch glass, but after checking again ammonium fluoride also is corrosive against glass, slower than the bifluoride, but still corrosive.