So I just bought this Nicolet IR300 with ATR. I have the omnic software already and im just waiting on it to get delivered to me. I will update once i
get it.
well that's ace
Panache - 1-6-2020 at 03:17
they are pretty useful, ive always found it peculiar though that you can't rely on it as backup for your television ir remote.
I have a doggedness in watching for a bargain and ftir's rarely seem to come up. I wonder if its hardware based, having some essential expensive
component that just has a finite life or if its just that people like to keep using the one they are used to.
Now seriously some advice, if you find it disappointing in any way just give it to me, don't settle for one you kind of like, find your ftir soul
mateBmoore55 - 1-6-2020 at 07:33
It looks like it is well taken care of and that is a good brand of ATR so that is promising. Once you get it I would look at the windows on either
side of the sampling compartment to see if they are fogged up. If there is no fog in the windows then that is a good sign the instrument was stored
properly. In the meantime it would be beneficial for you to try and dig up any user manuals you can find on this specific instrument online. Try to
figure out if it communicates with a PC via ethernet or by some other means. If it uses ethernet then check to see if it uses a static IP address.
Good luck!nleslie321 - 2-6-2020 at 04:44
it uses serial cable can i use a usb to serial does anyone know?XeonTheMGPony - 2-6-2020 at 05:25
you may have to find a few different adapters but once you find the right one should be good. I've come across this issue befor.
2 adapters both had the same specs but only one worked!nleslie321 - 2-6-2020 at 23:10
ok great thanks. i actually seen 2 other ATR units same as my FTIR comes with for sale on ebay one for $3000 another for $16000. Would anyone actually
pay $16000 australian for a used one? since i got my FTIR with ATR for $3000 i was quite happy with that price after seeing the just the ATR for
$3000.Bmoore55 - 3-6-2020 at 20:24
I don’t think you should pay $16000 for a used ATR that seems crazy. Can you provide links?pantone159 - 4-6-2020 at 14:03
you may have to find a few different adapters but once you find the right one should be good. I've come across this issue befor.
2 adapters both had the same specs but only one worked!
Yeah, USB-to-serial adaptors seem to be flaky, but they are cheap, so if you have to try a few to find one that actually works it is not so bad. nleslie321 - 4-6-2020 at 23:32
The one for $16000 is gone now haha the seller must of realised what a crazy price it was. I thought maybe to buy a more expensive usb to serial in
hopes its better than the cheap ones. What do you guys think? BTW my FTIR is still making its way across the USA so hopefully it leaves the USA soon
on its way to Australia. pantone159 - 5-6-2020 at 06:16
The USB-to-serial that worked ok for me was an IOGear GUC 232A, fwiw.
None of them are perfect, I think it is very difficult to get the electrical signals just the same as with a real physical serial port. I would avoid
trying to get the cheapest possible one, sure, but still be prepared to question it. nleslie321 - 5-6-2020 at 08:48
the guy sells vases, necklaces, and high current fuses, probably has no idea of the value of that instrument, or someone sold it to him for wayyy more
than it's worthnleslie321 - 29-6-2020 at 21:22
So my IR Spec just arrived at the depot so im going to collect it now will update with pictures etc when i get home.nleslie321 - 30-6-2020 at 05:33
Ive got it finally just finished cleaning it inside and out to remove dust. Cant get a serial to usb plug until the morning so i will test it
tomorrow.
Brunton - 3-7-2020 at 13:40
I bought the same model and I think it is from the same seller, judging by the picture. I have been having a hard time finding the software for mine
since it doesn't work with Omnic 9. Let me know if you make any progress on getting software to make yours work; I'll let you know if I find anything
as well. nleslie321 - 3-7-2020 at 21:15
Im working with the bloke from essential FTIR to get the ir300 working with his software. I also have contacted a heap of people to try get omnic 7 or
8 and have heard from a few people who said they should be able to get a copy. Ill continue working with essential ftir tonight to get that running
with ir300.Brunton - 3-7-2020 at 22:15
Please let me know if you have any luck. I noticed if you use essential ftir and select the Mattson option it is able to sense that the device is
connected but it doesn't recognize what type of device it is. nleslie321 - 6-7-2020 at 23:31
I have a plugin off the owner that removes the check for machine model and lets you use eftir software. Im having a hardware issue now with the moving
mirror. Is yours working hardware wise?nleslie321 - 7-7-2020 at 11:17
I also have a copy of Omnic 8.3 now. I will try it tomorrow to see if it works with the IR300.Brunton - 8-7-2020 at 16:53
Is there any way I could get a copy of omnic 8.3 as well as the driver for eftir?
I haven't been able to test if any of the hardware is working other than visually observing the laser path. I do know that when I turn the machine on
the laser appears as though it is slightly in the wrong position. When I received mine one of the ZnSe crystals on the ATR had fallen off and it was
bouncing around in the machine, I popped it back into place but it had some scratches on it. It doesn't look like the laser is traveling through the
ATR correctly on mine.
[Edited on 9-7-2020 by Brunton]nleslie321 - 9-7-2020 at 21:16
yeah ill give you a copy of both whats your email? pm me and ill send dropbox address. You cant see the laser after it goes through the beam splitter
if you look into the mirror towards the laser path you will see laser lol but dont burn your retina. you can use a sheet of paper to see it. Does your
moving mirror move when you turn it on?
[Edited on 10-7-2020 by nleslie321]Brunton - 10-7-2020 at 09:18
I'll check today to see if the moving mirror is working. Is it supposed to adjust automatically?Brunton - 24-7-2020 at 10:28
I played around with the ir300 a little. It seems like mine is having the same issue as yours where it is not calibrating properly. When I first
turned it on the moving mirror didn't do anything. I took the clear cover off and physically pushed the moving mirror toward the back of the unit into
the solenoid and it seems like it was stuck, now it moves freely. When I turn it on now the moving mirror slightly pulses but I am not sure if it is
functioning correctly. I also noticed that the laser beam is hitting the beam splitter toward the top, it is also hitting the corner cubes toward the
top as well. Isn't it supposed to be hitting the corner cube in the center of the cubes? Also, on Omnic, does yours come up with a .dll error when you
turn it on? Mine says ".dll is newer than expected". Brunton - 27-7-2020 at 09:22
On the Omnic diagnostic section it has the laser symbol crossed out; I am guessing that it means the laser is bad. nleslie321 - 17-9-2020 at 01:08
the bloke sold them as working but they are not working and not worth fixing sorry. Ive looked at it as i got a good ATR for 2k and ive spent 6500 US
for a refurbed Nicolet Avatar that comes with a PC, software etc etcMancival - 12-2-2021 at 13:37
the bloke sold them as working but they are not working and not worth fixing sorry. Ive looked at it as i got a good ATR for 2k and ive spent 6500 US
for a refurbed Nicolet Avatar that comes with a PC, software etc etc
I just wanted to publicly thank nleslie321 for recommending me Dr.Fuller from FTIR.com: I just purchased a preowned Avatar 360 from him and I'm now
waiting for the goodies. Will report back.nleslie321 - 17-3-2021 at 08:37
On the Omnic diagnostic section it has the laser symbol crossed out; I am guessing that it means the laser is bad.
Yeah The bloke is a lying POS I said to him there's no way these were working prior to shipping them. The lasers are like 17 yrs old so definitely not
working and beam splitter was also buggered. Basically Not worth spending money on as they are a shitty IR spec to begin with but would of been ok for
the cheap price if it was working. I ended up buying a Thermo Nicolet Avatar 360 that was freshly rebuilt with new laser, beamsplitter, detector, ZnSe
windows and IR source for 6500. Its running better than original specifications. you can recoup your money by selling the Specac Golden Gate ATR as
they are worth more than we paid for the ir300 with the ATR. Im keeping my ATR as I'm using it in my Avatar 360. I would only get one of the better
popular models that have parts availability like Avatar, Magna or Nexus etc. wxyz - 17-3-2021 at 21:09
I also noticed that the laser beam is hitting the beam splitter toward the top, it is also hitting the corner cubes toward the top as well. Isn't it
supposed to be hitting the corner cube in the center of the cubes? .
Usually the laser is aimed outside of the main IR path. With my MIDAC FTIR it is on the top just out of the way of the IR path. Makes it easier for
the hardware to pick that signal off before it goes to the sample.Panache - 26-4-2021 at 05:04
diagnostic section it has the laser symbol crossed out; I am guessing that it means the laser is bad.
lol you could not have expressed your utter disillusionment with the device any more succinctly.
I feel for you. It was exactly this thread that warned me off purchasing an ftir out of Sydney late last year. It came sans pc and as such one could
assess anything, because you couldn’t power it up. It was cheap at 3k...if it worked. I wasn’t deluding myself as to the amount of learning
needed for me to feel competent enough to assess a random ftirs soundness. I like using them...
So thanks again for the thread, I had driven from melb to Sydney to look at the unit. After 6hrs in this dudes garage trying to make a call on it this
thread just kept haunting me. Without It I reckon I would bought it and I have little doubt it would never have run.Panache - 1-5-2021 at 00:51
I ended up buying an Avatar 360 and an ATR, both from ebay. I spent the last month to play with it, having zero experience on FTIR before. MANY
subtleties to grasp...Mancival - 1-5-2021 at 14:14
I’m now in the market for an Hplc, and like it was for the ftir I’ve no idea where to start. I hope, like I did for the ftir, I’ll find people
in here with some experience to help me understand what to spend my money on.
