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Malonic acid

Bedlasky - 12-9-2019 at 08:47

Hi.

Exist any common source of malonic acid? I don't know where I find this acid - on the internet I didn't find it.

[Edited on 12-9-2019 by Bedlasky]

Fery - 12-9-2019 at 09:51

No producer of malonic acid in our country. Import only. Prices at Acros Organic quite high - more than 60 EUR per 250 g
https://www.acros.com/DesktopModules/Acros_Search_Results/Ac...
I know one kind distributor in CZ you can contact (they import from Acros stock in Belgium).

draculic acid69 - 14-9-2019 at 01:50

Isn't malonate the acid the opium poppy salts are found in in the plant? Morphine malonate etc etc.im assuming that after those Afghani farmers extract the morphine there would be calcium or ammonium malonate in the leftover soup.so if there are any Afghani farmers or other ethnicity poppy farmers out there looking at this start processing your leftover extract for malonic acid as it appears to retail at a decent price.

Tsjerk - 14-9-2019 at 02:31

I think it is possible.

karlos³ - 14-9-2019 at 09:35

Quote: Originally posted by draculic acid69  
Isn't malonate the acid the opium poppy salts are found in in the plant? Morphine malonate etc etc.im assuming that after those Afghani farmers extract the morphine there would be calcium or ammonium malonate in the leftover soup.so if there are any Afghani farmers or other ethnicity poppy farmers out there looking at this start processing your leftover extract for malonic acid as it appears to retail at a decent price.

You're probably thinking of meconic acid, not malonic acid, see here: meconic acid

draculic acid69 - 15-9-2019 at 22:12

Ahhhh yeah your right now I hear meconate i realize I mixed it up coz it sounds similar.close but nowhere near it.my bad.

PirateDocBrown - 16-9-2019 at 00:18

Synthesis is simple, if you have chloroacetic acid and sodium cyanide. Nitrilation proceeds under mild alkaline conditions, then hydrolysis.

Very useful reagent, too, for specific alkylations.

[Edited on 9/16/19 by PirateDocBrown]